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Should we add a section on neo-renaissance? --NearEMPTiness (talk) 20:14, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2014[edit]

I would like to edit the black death section, as well as correcting the errors throughout AlexR24 (talk) 17:07, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 23:06, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Why "the"?[edit]

Why is there the definite article in the title? This is not the case for, say, Age of Enlightenment, etc, and Renaissance redirects to this article, so there obviously are not any disambiguation issues. It's also discouraged in WP:DEFINITE: "Avoid definite and indefinite articles". Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 01:45, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

That is a good question. Barjimoa (talk) 17:39, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

End of Middle ages[edit]

This article is of good reading status. If You good contributors find my changes dislikable, or wrong even, then I'm sorry. However given the article's high status, I would like to explain my rather small changes to its lead.
By the beginning of the 15th Century [i.o.w. from year 1400] Europe was still in the Middle Ages (and was in the phase from recovering to adjusting itself from the Black Death, which between 1347 and 1353 had reduced the European population by a third, locally even worse) Saying the Renaissance began in Italy already in the latest part of 14th Century, isn't quite correct I believe. Doubtlessly the Renaissance did start in today's Italy, but more precisely, in some of the cities north of the Papal states (Rome and belt across the "Italian boot", no offence). In Florence painting from a perspective was something never seen anywhere before. This includes civilizations as the East-Asians, Indian, Arabian, Mexican and in the Andes. And also including old Egypt, Greece and Rome. Sculptures only were made in "3D". And older European portraits and other paintings were also "flat", until the 1420's or 1430's in Florence. (which eventually also gave renewed the interest of geometry and mathematics in general)
Also, how to make concrete was an building art which had been forgotten for centuries. But became reinvented around the same time. These are examples of the beginning of something new. And soon followed inventions or better use of earlier inventions (like the compass), the art of printing, astronomy (it was known the Earth was sperical, but Europeans still was afraid of leaving the Mediterranean Sea or coastlines. There had in any case been no European explorers since the Vikings around 1450. But during the last quarter of the 15th Century the Spanish-Portuguese Kingdoms began to encourage exploring of world's coast lines. (Later followed by the Dutch , English and other Europeans)
I think it fair to say that the Renaissance spred and increased gradualy during the 50 year period of (approximate) 1425 to 1475. Not much sooner than around 1425. And the entire process began in cities as Florence, Bologna, Genua and Venice. A phrase like "Late medieval" ,is in my mind the time between the long aftermath of the Black Death (until around 1375) and 1475. (Although earlier in mentioned parts) Boeing720 (talk) 17:57, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

An error on the page[edit]

This really isn't much of an issue, but I wonder why the picture that was intended to be shown in the subsection "Art" (Michelangelo's grave) is, well, not shown. Is this because no picture corresponding to it has been uploaded? I tried editing it, but couldn't. Knaveknight (talk) 14:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2015[edit]

dear wikipedia person,

i need an access for the scorces on 'the renaissance' page. i need it for my history essay. i could lose my scolarship by this. i need it before monday by tusday because my whole life is depending on it and i need to make a change in my life.

regards, Greenflame123

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2015[edit] (talk) 16:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC)The renaissance time the people was pervert and only shows their pirulin

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More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:35, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2015[edit]

Please replace Vasari’s work Vite de' più eccellenti architetti, pittori, et scultori Italiani with the correct (Lives of the Most Excellent Painters, Sculptors, and Architects) Le Vite de' più eccellenti pittori, scultori, e architettori. Ignoto (talk) 15:36, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Stickee (talk) 03:13, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Article's name[edit]

Why is this article named "The Renaissance" instead of "Renaissance"? I'm proposing to move it. --Checco (talk) 13:55, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I agree. Having the The isn't standard practice, consider Middle Ages, Industrial Revolution. - SimonP (talk) 20:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Additionally, the article was moved from "Renaissance" to "The Renaissance" without any debate (see also here). While we are at it, let me also explain why I disagree with this edit by 115ash: as the article's first image, Michelangelo's David, which by the way is in Florence, is more meaningful than a panorama of Florence, as well as Michelangelo is more notable than Brunelleschi. I'm going to revert the edit. --Checco (talk) 11:28, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

I agree. It is better to remove the article. Barjimoa (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

I agree too about both issues. Alex2006 (talk) 11:46, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

I've made the change. - SimonP (talk) 12:20, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Opening image[edit]

The article is not about notability not about the outstanding contributions of great artists. I believe that the statue must not be on the top of the article. We could some other paintings. --115ash→(☏) 13:32, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Well, I think that we have enough artworks to put at the top of the article (starting with the ominous Mona Lisa), but why do you dislike David? Alex2006 (talk) 17:29, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
That image is unacceptable. What's wrong with the birthplace of the Renaissance? I don't know why Checco made a comparison between Filippo and Michelangelo. Did I add the Cathedral? No, just the city.--115ash→(☏) 09:06, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Why unacceptable? Alex2006 (talk) 17:23, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
As everyone know that Wikipedia is not censored, still nudity doesn't look nice on the of the article. There are better images that can be replaced. What's wrong with the birthplace of the Renaissance? Again, that was a view of Florence, not only the Cathedral. --115ash→(☏) 15:35, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
You answered by yourself: Wikipedia is not censored. This means that nudity cannot play any role in the judgement about the opportunity to use a picture in the lead. Alex2006 (talk) 16:07, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Yes, but there many better images that we can include. I find it as inappropriate. Again, what's wrong with the image of Florence? There many much finer sculptors that we can include.--115ash→(☏) 10:06, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Dear ash, you are refusing to get the point. I am asking you since a week: why is it inappropriate? The only reason which you gave until now, is that David is nude, and this for Wikipedia is not a valid reason. "There are better images", "what is wrong with Florence", and so on, is only Smalltalk. You should give valid, compelling reasons to change this image, which represents what is considered one of the most remarkable masterpieces of world art, not nudity. Alex2006 (talk) 10:54, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Why can't we include better images. Let's forget about nudity, assume that it I don't like the image. Amongst most remarkable masterpieces of world art, there are even more notable works, such as the dome of Brunelleschi, Gioconda, San Pietro and many other sculptors.--115ash→(☏) 11:24, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
I just added the biggest church, which is more remarkable.--115ash→(☏) 11:28, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
For the record, I perfectly agree with Alex. I don't understand 115ash's concerns and I think that Michelangelo's David is probably the most appropriate symbol of Renaissance. Only Leonardo's Vitruvian Man would be a good competitor, but I would leave it where it is. --Checco (talk) 09:28, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
What? Since when that has been considered the most appropriate symbol of Renaissance? San Pietro, Gioconda, Cathedral of Florence and many others are much more suitable. 115ash→(☏) 11:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Organization of topic[edit]

Rather than organize this geographically it would make more sense to organize chronologically or by style. Although Italy and particularly Florence have a special significance, listings for other regions seem unnecessary. See, for example, how Britannica does it: Also, has a well-organized treatment of the topic: (talk) 04:07, 30 October 2015 (UTC) Ak843 (talk) 04:10, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2015[edit]

There seems to be factual inaccuracy in what is said of Michelet in the second and third sentences of the following paragraph from the Wikipedia entry headed Renaissance:

“The word "Renaissance" is borrowed from the French language, where it means "re-birth". It was first used and defined[16] by French historian Jules Michelet (1798–1874), in his 1855 work, Histoire de France (History of France).[79] His work is at the origin of the use of the French word "Renaissance" in other languages.”

That paragraph is also inconsistent with another pair of sentences in the same article:

“The word Renaissance, literally meaning "Rebirth" in French, first appears in English in the 1830s.[15] The word occurs in Jules Michelet's 1855 work, Histoire de France.”

It is certainly true that the word appears in English well before it was used by Michelet, but that is because Michelet was not the originator of the use of the word in French or, for that matter, English.

Section 1 of Michelet's 1855 Introduction to his Histoire de France provides an analysis of the ways in which the word renaissance was used in French at the time but it cannot be the origin of the use of the word.

In 1845 Étienne Jean Delécluze, referred to his book on Roland as a section of “mon ouvrage sur la renaissance”, and in the first sentence of its Preface he defines that as “la renaissance des lumières et de la civilisation en Europe”.

In 1840 T.A. Trollope A Summer in Brittany in his account of the church of St Thégonec suggests that the word was in common use in France at least 15 years before Michelet: he refers there to 'the “renaissance”, as the French choose to term it'.

By 1840 Charles Lenormant in Rabelais et l'architecture de la Renaissance uses the word simply and without further explanation to refer to the relationship between the fictional Abbaye de Thélème in Rabelais and buildings such as the châteaux of Chambord and Fontainebleau which would are now readily referred to as Renaissance buildings.

In 1822 J.A.Coussin in Du génie de l'architectures seems to assume that his readers are familiar with the term renaissance used without any qualifying phrase. He does not define it but from the beginning simply refers to “l'époque appellée la renaissance” or “le temps appelé la Renaissance”.

In 1787 the word renaissance was used, with a qualifying phrase, by Antoine-Nicolas Dezallier d'Argenville in his Vies Des Fameux Sculpteurs Depuis La Renaissance Des Arts. Both his title and the references in his footnotes make clear his debt to Vasari.and the concept of la rinascita, which Vasari generally qualifies with an expression such as l'arti di disegno

In 1772 Alexandre Julien Savérien used the word renaissance, though with a qualifying phrase, in Histoire des philosophes anciens, jusqu'à la renaissance des lettres. That book was reviewed in England in the Critical Review of 1773.

The notion of the “la renaissance des lettres” seems to be derived from d'Alembert's 1751 “Discours préliminaire” to l’Encyclopédie, ou dictionnaire raisonné des sciences, des arts et des métiers, edited by d'Alembert and Diderot.

Michelet was important but he was not the originator of the use of the word “renaissance” in its modern sense. (talk) 19:54, 21 November 2015 (UTC)