Talk:Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi
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Can anyone verify the quotations from Praktischer Idealismus? Larvatus 23:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)larvatus
- Ok, here is:
- Der Mensch der fernen Zukunft wird Mischling sein. Die heutigen Rassen und Kasten werden der zunehmenden Überwindung von Raum, Zeit und Vorurteil zum Opfer fallen. Die eurasisch-negroide Zukunftsrasse, äußerlich der altägyptischen ähnlich, wird die Vielfalt der Völker durch eine Vielfalt der Persönlichkeiten ersetzen.
- Statt das Judentum zu vernichten, hat es Europa wider Willen durch jenen künstlichen Ausleseprozeß veredelt und zu einer Führernation der Zukunft erzogen. Kein Wunder also, daß dieses Volk, dem Ghetto-Kerker entsprungen, sich zu einem geistigen Adel Europas entwickelt. So hat eine gütige Vorsehung Europa in dem Augenblick, als der Feudaladel verfiel, durch die Judenemancipation eine neue Adelsrasse von Geistes Gnaden geschenkt.
- I don't speak German so someone else may translate that. Uikku (talk) 18:59, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Those translated citations in the article were added by user Cyrruss. He has not edited anything after year 2007, so I don't know how we could know where or how he got the translation. Uikku (talk) 21:10, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
No popular movement
According to my British civilisation teacher, there was no popular movement, but rather the idea of a European union developed within intellectual and some political circles. I didn't take the time to check it on the Internet though. --Taupe 14:49, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
An important nuance
"Every day America will leave Europe farther behind unless its statesmen at least can rouse themselves to set by the side of the Fifth Pan-American Conference the First Pan-European Conference." From the book Pan-Europe (1926) was sent out to the whole world p. 82 http://hdl.handle.net/2027/mdp.39015004075605
In 1926 Europe is a cluster of petty states in disunion. America and Europe went into business union for 3 years showing ideal. His book Coudenhove-Kalgeri had sent to those in power to show face in Vienna. But not with politicians and statesmen in charge, but them, the Plutocrats: “In republican and monarchical democracies statesmen are marionettes, the mastermind behind are capitalists: they dictate the rules of politics, they speak through the purchase of public opinion, voters, business and social relationships to Ministers. …. The plutocracy of today is more powerful than the aristocracy of yesterday because no one is above it, only the state, an accompliance, the tool of the plutocrats.” Plutokratie, Coudenhove-Kalgeri, (1925). The Plutocrats should take power legitimate showing ideal instead of remain in hiding. He wanted a world social Aristocracy.
These 1926-29 were the best of times and they were not about war, they were businesses and looking out in the whole world for more business. According to Coca-Cola history Mr. Woodruff committed the Company in 1926 to organized international expansion by establishing the Foreign Department.
After Stock market crash 1929 polls said to Roosevelt in America and Hitler in Germany businesses must be planned by the state!
The next union of American and European business was of states during the Cold war. In the first union of 1926-29 MNCs were the main actors. This difference is not emphazised today. The Western world with big MNCs legitimate in power lasted 3 years until this guy Freud's American nephew Edward Bernays (the inventor of PR) whose business of manipulation with no ideal was in danger, when the others was showing ideal:
“..so, I decided if you can use Propaganda for war, you can certainly use it for peace” The Century of the Self (min. 11:05) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXLLopp8jc&feature=related
Bernays decided to manipulate the common man, men in psychoanalysis like to win, so he said they should borrow money and buy stock from his clients (banks) because the market with the new world order of free business would only go up! Please leave a comment
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Does not work. Coolguy1368 12:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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There's a section in the current article that lists Richard Nikolaus as writing Das Wesen des Antisemitismus. Since Richard Nikolaus was born in 1894, it's unlikely he published the book in 1901. According to Archive.org, the person who wrote that book is actually "Coudenhove-Kalergi, Heinrich Johann Maria, Graf von, 1859-1906". I don't know how much of the article needs to be changed as a result of this information, so I mention it here. --UnneededAplomb (talk) 10:35, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
This has to be changed now. A wikipedia biography can not have such failure as stating someone wrote a book being 7 years old, as stated above, it has to be revised as soon as possible. If there is such obvious mistake, who can trust the rest of the information? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 11:16, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
Otto v. Habsburg
For what it's worth, the article says that he founded the PEU in 1922 with Otto v. Habsburg. Dr Habsburg was 10 years old in 1922. I seriously doubt that he was founding political movements at that point! This from personal knowledge, since I knew Dr Habsburg.JovanW 04:58, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Bad use of English
Some of the English in this article is almost incomprehensible. Take the first paragraph of "Death": "On a masonic yearbook [this should presumably read "According to a masonic yearbook" - "on a book" can only means physically on top of it] he died in a stroke [in English you die "of" a disease or a heart attack, but "in" a car crash or a cholera epidemic]. But his secretary wrote about his suicide [this can only mean "But in fact he committed suicide, and his secretary wrote about it" - which is clearly not the intention]. On her memoir [should read "In her memoirs"] his death was hidden [no, "concealed" - "hidden" means physically hidden, like a window by a curtain - but "Her memoirs did not mention his death" would be better English, if that's what the writer actually means] not to make people disappointed ["not to make people disappointed" should read "so as not to disappoint people" - but "disappoint" isn't really the right word - this is almost baby talk] because he was the great dedicator to ["the great dedicator to" is completely un-English - for one thing, the word "dedicator" hardly exists, and "dedicator to" is meaningless - whom or what did he dedicate, and what to? In fact he himself was dedicated to European integration - whoever wrote this has no idea how to use English verbs] European integration. ... He was on the top of [what, physically on (the) top of it? no, "he led / headed / was president of the Pan-European Union"] the Pan-European Union until his death. The presidency was succeeded [people are succeeded, not things, so "He was succeeded as leader / as president / in the presidency", or else "Otto von Habsburg succeeded him as...."] by Otto von Habsburg." In other places the words "the" and "a" are omitted, suggesting that the writer is a native speaker of, say, Japanese or Czech who is unfamiliar with these basic features of English. This is so dreadful it looks like someone used Babelfish or Google Translate. But in other places, especially at the beginning, the English looks perfectly reasonable. Has the article been patched together by different people?126.96.36.199 (talk) 14:56, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Ode to Joy
The statement that he "proposed Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" as the Anthem of Europe in 1929, which he later proposed in 1955" must be wrong. He either first proposed it in 1929 or 1955, it cannot have been both.Royalcourtier (talk) 05:08, 8 April 2016 (UTC)