Talk:Robinson Crusoe

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Mention in the media[edit]

There's a good article in First Monday, which mentions extensively this page and errors in it. It would probably be worth taking a look. Cheers. Cormaggio is learning 11:00, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Good article. -- Stbalbach 15:34, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone remember a French T.V. adaptation of 'Robinson Crusoe' made sometime in the sixties I think? It was shown many times on British T.V. in a dubbed version. Might be worth a mention along with some other film and T.V. adaptations perhaps.The Relativist 11:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually the TV version was Russian I believe. Filmed in black-and-white with an evocative orchestral theme in which the strings were most evident, in the seventies it used to be shown on TV in the mornings during the summer school holidays, here in the UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I'm sure that was it. I do remember the music was very good. I'm probably wrong about the language.The Relativist (talk) 10:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I am sure it was French version. Anyone growing up in the 70s will remember it :) Kentish 19:09, 14 August 2011 (GMT)
Yes, my mistake - it was a 'Franco-German' production. I always remembered it as being Russian for some reason. It was shown around the same time in the seventies as The Aeronauts (Les chevaliers du ciel) [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:40, 20 August 2014 (UTC)


I'm trying to get some comments for a proposed guideline about titles with subtitles. I would appreciate any comments over at WP:Village pump (policy)/Archive 16#WP:SUBTITLES. Thanks! superlusertc 2007 December 23, 08:37 (UTC)

another possible source[edit]

In the spanish article, you can read that a possible source to the novel is the real story of Pedro Serrano, a castaway who lived during 4 years in a desert island. In his travels to spain, DeFoe could have heared or read about his story. And if you read the Comments that Garcilaso de la Vega "El Inca" wrote about the story of Pedro Serrano, you can see parallel facts between the novel and the real story, for example when Robinson believes that the Devil is in the island.


As mentioned in this article - Robinson Crusoe has given rise to an extensive "genre" of both popular and "serious" literature (in the widest sense of that word, but including novels, verse, theatrical and radio/television productions, films etc.) some of which directly refer to or parody the original novel - but many more of which just steal the basic idea of a shipwrecked or "marooned" individual or party forced to survive with limited resources on an uninhabited island or other isolated location. Just to pick a few novels - Gulliver's Travels, The Swiss Family Robinson, The Coral Island, Lord of the Flies etc. etc. There are literally thousands of these things - an article that attempted to list them would be very large indeed - in fact it would need to be an article in its own right. This is why we mention only a very select list of Robinsonades here - most of them chosen either for their high literary value/notability, and/or the fact that they actually DO directly parody or otherwise treat themes or aspects of the original novel. Sadly - someone added a silly television sitcom and it was allowed to stand - someone else has started an edit war to add another. Where would it end? Obviously, we'd be lucky to retain anything that might pass for an encyclopedia article. This needs to be resisted. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 11:38, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

In the hope that my supposed "vandal" will prove a responsible editor and come here to discuss this one! I am NOT making value judgements about Gilligan's Island (well I am in a way, but not saying it shouldn't have its own article, or that that article isn't important, in its own context. On the other hand that article doesn't say anything about this one (except to mention, obliquely, the words of its theme song). I just don't think a mention in the theme song and the very broad "Robinsonade" category is enough to warrant such a mention here. Might be different if the Gilligan's Island article went into some depth to explain the connection with R.C. ? Then again, it might not, even then. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 11:20, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
"Gilligan's Island", is clearly the most classic television show that is relevant to "Robinson Crusoe", at least having the theme song mention to back it up (that being the focus of my insert, surely not defacing the article with its briefness), and I find it funny you consider "Garfield" and "Mr. Peabody" to have the "high literary value/notability" to deserve mention instead, also totally ignoring that someone says "LOST" was heavily influenced by Defoe's novel (it wasn't). As if it needs any explaining, the book, the Bunuel film and every other version of the story focuses much time on the hero's having to use his ingenuity to create all the things needed to survive and make a new home for himself when separated from society (as the seven castaways did), and learning the only thing he cannot find a solution for is his loneliness (toward which the castaways on more than one occasion mentioned being thankful they had each other). Just as the author intended the novel to say something about society, Sherwood Schwartz, creator of "Gilligan's Island", saw his series as a microcosm of whatever worldly problems visited the island week to week. Meanwhile, the bunch from "LOST" never concentrated on creating a home (except when they found the Dharma facility which was already completely built) nor were they particularly lonely (there were people they were more interested in escaping) nor was the island deserted, nor as it turned out was it actually an island. Bottom line, your continued removal of my inserting the show is unwarranted. As I mentioned when contacting you, if you have enough faith in being right in the value judgment you are indeed making, why not put the matter to the decision of other editors here? (talk) 12:17, 2 March 2014 (UTC)Defenestrator
1. I thought we actually were actually in agreement about "Lost in Space' so I don't know what that has to do with anything. It is the nature of Wiki articles that not everything that shouldn't be there gets deleted right away. At the very most, "Lost" is certainly not MORE relevant to the R.C. article than G.I. - or are you arguing that we need to mention Lost in Space here??
2. There are many, many Robinsonades (stories reflecting the basic storyline of the original novel). It is NOT appropriate to try to list ALL of these. We have to be select - and the selection needs to be based on relevance, rather than either my opinion of the show as garbage OR yours that it is "the most classic television show".
3. Gilligan's Island has its own article, which doesn't bring up the novel or relate its themes to those of the sitcom or, indeed, link with this article in any way (and probably quite rightly). Even the theme song - which mentions R.C. but only in passing, is not discussed at any length in the G.I. article. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 22:30, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
I have actually added a "see also" link to G.I. - this is probably the best way of linking these two very tenuously connected articles.--Soundofmusicals (talk) 22:48, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Silly tags[edit]

Just in case someone objects to the "detagging" of the lead to this article - we probably DO need a good cite for the fact that Más a Tierra was renamed as "Robinson Crusoe Island" in 1966 (although a quick check reveals this is actually true) - without going into silly detail, we don't need the citations that I deleted, for things that are quite verifiable, if not plainly obvious. Although the referencing (and perhaps some other factors) preclude this from being more than a c-class article at present, and two sub-sections are (rightly) taged as being short on references, it probably doesn't need an overarching "references needed" tag. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 04:34, 27 December 2014 (UTC)