Talk:Roman Catholic Diocese of Leeds

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Dioceses templates[edit]

There appears to be a problem of having 2 templates on the article which cover essentially the same thing, one being a sub-set of the other. We either need to have the Great Britain template or the England & Wales template, not both, in the article. May be this is the wrong place to discuss this, but it would be best to reach an agreement rather than getting into a reverting war. By the way I have no preference either way. Keith D (talk) 10:25, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

See my contribution to this discussion. PamD (talk) 10:42, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the note - looks like there is a far wider problem than just this article. Keith D (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 11:48, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


I sort of messed this up... I think they should be listed within deanery groups rather than just all in alpabetical order. I'll try sort it. - Yorkshirian (talk) 23:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

User Benkenobi18's moving of the article again[edit]

The title does not need a qualification of "Roman Catholic", because that is not its name; it is called the Diocese of Leeds. There is no other "Diocese of Leeds" to confuse it with. I don't know if this user knows this as he is not from the UK, but the Anglican Diocese areas are intentionally different areas to the Catholic ones, specifically so they do not "name clash". Read the website of the diocese {, it is simply known as the "Diocese of Leeds" so pack it in moving it about. - Yorkshirian (talk) 18:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

If this is indeed the case, it would seem that Yorkshirian's version (and title) of the article is more correct. Benkenobi, if you are going to change it, please provide your justification in either an edit summary or here on the talk page. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Just took a closer look, and now I find myself wondering if there is any harm in calling it "Roman Catholic" even when there's no ambiguity. As a non-British, non-religious reader, I would not have known that the Diocese of Leeds had anything to do with Roman Catholicism without seeing it in the title, and without having to do a more in-depth read. The article's title should accurately reflect the subject in a way that makes sense to the largest number of people. The "most efficient" title is not necessarily the best one. If there is no conflict in calling it Roman Catholic (ie. if "Roman Catholic Diocese" is not incorrect), then it probably makes sense to leave it in.
In any event, per WP:BRD, you two should be discussing this here, not edit-warring. Please provide your justifications in a discussion (or at least in your edit summaries). — KieferSkunk (talk) — 19:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
The Anglican ones do not have qualifiers and there is just as much (ie- no) chance of "ambiguity" with them; look at the Diocese of York for example. This is all simply of Benkobi18's doing. There is 0 confusion as the Catholic diocese were set up to cover different areas than the Anglican ones. The official title of the diocese is the Diocese of Leeds: not the "Roman Catholic Diocese of", Benkenobi18 is just doing this intentionally to be annoying. Also it is made clear in the very first sentence the religion it is part of. - Yorkshirian (talk) 11:36, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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