Talk:Catholic Marian churches

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Name[edit]

This should be renamed from "architecture" to "buildings"/churches or something, unless you can demonstrate that different architectural styles or forms were used in buildings dedicated to Mary from other contemporary Catholic buildings. I think think this will prove difficult. Johnbod (talk) 23:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Well John, as the art expert, what do you think will be a title that will convey the idea and yet does not sound like we are discussing building permits, etc. The idea is to show the progression of these churches. Please suggest a few and that will get the ideas rolling. Thanks History2007 (talk) 23:41, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

What a difference a day makes[edit]

John: Yesterday I was almost ready to agree with you to change the name to something else. But today someone kindly added a new category and I think Wikipedia consistently uses the term architecture for the purposes of this article. Examples are:

So today I think the article has exactly the right name. So this article will look at the same type of progression of architecture as the others have documented, say Medieval, Gothic, Renaissance, Baroque, ... Modern, etc. and look at how the Marian churches progressed as influenced by the growth of Mariology. The fact is that Marian architectures were a manifestation of Marian belief - as was Marian art and music.

If done right, it should be a nice article. Again, if you know this topic, please feel free to develop the page. Thanks History2007 (talk) 07:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The point is all of those topics are a distinct subject -cathedral architecture is different from church architecture. I have never seen it claimed, and the article certainly gives no evidence, that Marian buildings are different in any way whatsoever from contemporary Catholic buildings of the same region with other dedications. Are you claimimg this? If not, there is no "Roman Catholic Marian architecture", only buildings. Johnbod (talk) 15:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I would hesitate to claim things about architecture for I am no architect of physical items, let us say. So to make all options clear, could you please provide 3 to 5 possible titles (again such that they do not sound like we are applying for building permits) from your more experienced viewpoint? Thank you. History2007 (talk) 16:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok:
  • Roman Catholic Marian buildings
  • Roman Catholic Marian churches (we are not, I think, covering schools, hospitals etc)
  • Roman Catholic churches dedicated to Mary
  • Dedication of churches to Mary

-I think I'd maybe favour 3. Johnbod (talk) 17:33, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, done deal. I selected 2 because it matched the other 2 article titles. Thanks for your input. History2007 (talk) 17:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Some more imposing Marian chuches are: Basilica of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Gdansk, Poland (1502); Jasna Gora Monastery, Czestochowa, Poland (1382); St. Mary of the Assumption Cathedral, Pelplin, Poland (1323); Notre Dame Basilica, Montreal, Quebec, (1829); Our Lady, Queen of the Most Holy Rosary Cathedral, Toledo, Ohio, (1940) Musicwriter (talk) 23:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

"Young" San Juan Diego[edit]

I thought this sounded fishy when I read it. This article says that Juan Diego was "young" when the Virgin appeared to him in 1531. His wikipedia article lists his birth year as 1474. Was 57 a "young" age in the sixteenth century? ... I understand that Our Lady often reveals herself to children, but Juan Diego, though young in faith, was not young in years. Since this appears in a paragraph that tries to make the case that Our Lady usually appears to children, perhaps a different example should be used, such as Our Lady of Fátima or Our Lady of La Salette? 173.218.141.254 (talk) 07:40, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I will touch that up later. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 08:14, 9 April 2012 (UTC)