Talk:Router (computing)

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motorola cellphone GPRS[edit]

I'am using the motorola phone as a modem and it doing will. The phone is giving the bandwith of about 912.26 mbps but it is not stable, it lapse and at to the point of disconnection. I would like to ask you people to discuss about this matter if the cell phone could be able to use as the modem while using the router. Then what kind of router could possible and compatible to the phone.


Its important, on this subject, to include the pronounciation as there are different pronounciations aruond the world, which overlap with other objects (like wood router). When you hear people talking about about 'rooters' and 'raouters' even fluent english speakers could get confused if they dont know about the regional differences in pronunciation, and not just due to accent. This is why it shoud be considered a different case than just pronounciation of any other word with the differenct only coming down to accent. (talk) 15:38, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, some people pronounce it "rooter" while others have it rhyme with "doubter". Determining the correct pronunciation will be left as an excercise for the reader. (Note: the perceived correct answer may depend on where you live).

Computer Networks, 5th ed. by Andrew S. Tanenbaum and David J. Wetherall
So, what is the answer? In Israel it is the latter, while google translate votes for the former. --Elaz85 (talk) 13:25, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

NAT should be mentioned[edit]

Today, Network Address Translation (NAT) ia a critical function of a router, regardless of its class. Therefore, it should be mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ksylian (talkcontribs) 15:30, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

I have added a sentence about network address translation. Bwrs (talk) 05:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Intro and definition[edit]

Isn't a router a network switch (or perhaps a network bridge) + a gateway? --Jerome Potts (talk) 01:56, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

A gateway is a two-port router plus other stuff (e.g. Network address translation, Firewall (computing)). Some switches have routing capability in addition to bridging. A bridge is different, it operates at layer 2 whereas a router operates at layer 3. -—Kvng 23:03, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
I think that many or most routers nowadays have a built-in switch on the LAN side. Bwrs (talk) 10:39, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

A router is not a modem. Though they are combined nowadays it is confusing to mix terms. A DSL modem and Cable modem are not routers and should not be linked to as routers. Lbparker40 (talk) 23:52, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Copied intro and definition, pasted into new article[edit]

Yesterday I started an article on route redistribution, but because it consisted mostly of text copied from the lead of this article, it got deleted. Would anybody like to work on it with me? Bwrs (talk) 04:48, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Not mentioned router is a computer[edit]

For a reason it is not mentioned in the intro head of the article, that (hardware) routers are specialized network computers (meaning they utilize the von Neumann architecture, have an full-fledged operating system, storage, etc.). As opposed to, for example, normal switches or bridges, which are relatively simple electronic devices built around a SoC and some firmware code on a EEPROM/flash. I believe this is imperative to be fixed, as this router particularity is fundamental to it. (talk) 19:43, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

That information should be added to Router_(computing)#Historical_and_technical_information (with citations) before it is added to the lead. I'm not so convinced that it is a critical point. There are routers that use general-purpose embedded processors and there are switches and bridges that use network processors.

There is already a sentence in that section saying that routers are highly specialized network computers. But the average reader will mostly read the lead only, where it doesn't say that a router is a computer (like, a specialized version of your desktop computer). It can be said in a very short manner not taking up a whole lead paragraph or the like. For example: Router -- specialized network computer that forwards... . Of course there are different flavors of routers and switches, but as a general rule the argument from the first message stands true. And how do you support that with a citation? This is kinda very general idea, like passenger cars have 4 wheels, you don't require citations for that, I believe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Actually, many if not most electronic devices today are computers. That includes your cordless phone, cell phone (smart or not), car (several computers), web radio, the keyboard you're typing on, home automation center, Blu-ray player, TV, ... It'd be more notable for a current electronic device not being a computer. Zac67 (talk) 10:58, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
For this argument, please read the first message of this section; this was already mentioned there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:16, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

First sentence[edit]

This was posed to my talkpage. I think better to have the discussion here...

Hi. I've seen your rollback. Idk local style conventions about the use of dashes (I put those because I feel they're clear inside another parentheses). However I was fixing parentheses balance too, now there are two open and only one closed parentheses. --Tino (talk) 17:37, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

I think the way to fix this is to avoid trying to cover pronunciation and definition in the same lead sentence. I have taken a crack at it. Let me know what you think. ~Kvng (talk) 21:16, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Imho it is clearer now. --Tino (talk) 09:57, 5 April 2015 (UTC)