Talk:Sadr City

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By whom was it so renamed? Should we so rename it? - Montréalais

I'm opposed to the enthusiastic renaming of Wikipedia articles about cities, airports, etc. simply to keep up with the 24-hour news networks. I propose we give these things a few months to settle down before renaming the articles -- then we'll have more perspective and a better idea of what the appropriate name should be. Chadloder 01:50 Apr 16, 2003 (UTC)

invasion?[edit]

According to dictionary.com, invasion is define as the act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer. This is untrue in this case since US is not conquering Iraq (government is formed and elections are held).--Bonafide.hustla 06:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

The other options are "Liberation" which is a Dick Cheney term, and "Post-Saddam" which is POV since we don't refer to "Post-Hitler Germany" or "Post-FDR America". Wiki has decided, after much debate, to refer to this military endeavor as the 2003 Invasion of Iraq. Thus, articles use "Post-Invasion", not "Post-Saddam" or any other variant. Also, please do not vandal-move major articles to fit your own agenda. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 12:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't understand why one can't use both "post-invasion" and "post-Saddam"; that is, why is "post-Saddam" POV? In the 1950s, one could certainly refer to "post-Hitler Germany" or even "post-FDR America". Saddam's rule was most definitely an era quite unlike any other in Iraq. That era came to an end with the U.S. invasion - ushering in, for the time being, "post-Saddam Iraq." No?71.243.66.136 19:44, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Pleae show me the link to the debate--Bonafide.hustla 06:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Talk:2003_invasion_of_Iraq would be a good place to start, I'll also point out that 2003_invasion_of_Iraq and Iraq War are separate articles, as I said, since one refers to the actual invasion, the other refers to the ongoing struggle against militants. The city had little to do with Saddam's capture, please stop revert-warring to try and prove a point. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 13:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Please provide a diff. link that explicitly stated invasion is neutral or it constitutes as POV pushing. The fall of Hussein's "administration" which coincides with the so-called "invasion". The reason I feel invasion is the wrong term is the United States have no interest in keeping Iraq as its colony. Anyway please provide a diff. link or suggest a more neutral term instead of invasion.--Bonafide.hustla 21:57, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Nobody's calling it the colonization of Iraq, however troops did invade and occupy it - albeit hopefully only until the Iraqi infrastructure can support itself. It's not up to me to suggest a more neutral term, you are the one who wants it changed, you've suggested "Gulf War II" and "Post-Saddam", both of which I have clearly rejected because one is just silly, the other because it implies that somehow it was related to Saddam Hussein. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 22:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Can you provide a diff. link to the discussion?--Bonafide.hustla 01:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Weird text moved from the article[edit]

I am moving this unsourced text here:

The building was nearly destroyed by looters in 2003, but the US military restored the structure at a cost of $30,000 and granted it to the city’s 30-member district advisory council to convene meetings.

I have several remarks on it:

  • either was "nearly destroyed", or was restored at the cost of $30 thousand U.S. but it is hard to believe both. What was the building made from?
  • how the building was "granted" - U.S. troops did not invaded (see discussion above ;)) but managed to get the titles to the building?
  • even if we assume the building was worth up to 100000 (and was "repaired" from "nearly complete destruction" for 30000), what is the notability of it in that case? Price? Sacred land? -- Goldie (tell me) 18:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Moqtada al-Sadr as "De Facto Ruler"[edit]

I noticed someone added a "citation needed" tag to the passage describing al-Sadr as the slum's "de facto ruler." Since he doesn't officially occupy any such position, I decided to rephrase it and call him a powerful Shiite cleric. --Impaciente 00:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Murder Rate[edit]

The two sentences in the article re: murder rate seem either not very relevant (if just taken at face value), or overly suggestive for the degree of evidence provided. I'd suggest removing them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MikeThicke (talkcontribs) 07:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Iran[edit]

According to the WaPo article, the Mahdi Army fighters reported buying weapons smuggled from Iran. I'm putting that back, explicitly saying "smuggled". Superm401 - Talk 06:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


Tense[edit]

What tense would be appropriate for this article? I see that it switches tenses just a few times. I say it should be past tense, simply becuase then it won't require editing when an ongoing act ceases. [Jehan60188]

contested statement removed[edit]

  • The landmark of Sadr City is its large municipal building, which was reportedly ordered by Saddam Hussein, who gave a single speech from its balcony and never returned to either the building or the city again {{Fact|date=December 2006}}.

Please do not return this information to the article without a citation.--BirgitteSB 16:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Correction on Units[edit]

Another point to note is that one of the major units that fought in SAadr City during the 2004 uprising was the 2nd Batttalion 8th Cavalry, which is a key unit in the 1st Brigade. Absolutely no mention of it even though Aces company was the only company with tanks assigned to it until the summer of 2004. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.113.8.138 (talk) 13:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Population inconsistency[edit]

The inline text says the population is ~1 million while the infobox says ~3 million, only the inline text has a citation so I assume that is correct, however it leads to a 404 error. Jurryaany (talk) 23:21, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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