Talk:Saint Patrick

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search
Former good article Saint Patrick was one of the Philosophy and religion good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
Date Process Result
March 14, 2006 Peer review Reviewed
September 15, 2007 Peer review Reviewed
September 20, 2007 Good article nominee Listed
January 12, 2009 Good article reassessment Delisted
Current status: Delisted good article

Patron Saint of Ireland?[edit]

I thought that this is a common myth - that he is only the "unofficial" Patron Saint, and sources list only Brigit and Columba as "official" Irish saints? Can we get a citation for his patronage, or at least [citation needed] on the page???  :)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2018[edit]

Please change "though identified in one tradition as Glannoventa, modern Ravenglass in Cumbria, in what is now England; claims have been advanced for locations in both present-day Scotland and Wales" to "which has been speculated to be in Wales, Scotland or even England."

Reason- 2 sources: 1 broken link as source + 1 weak source. There are many other more credible sources naming Scotland or Wales as the birthplace. Giving more credance to Saint Patrick being born in England than the other places is deceptive, as his birthplace is unknown, but more generally accepted to be Scotland or Wales (which is discussed in previous sources used in the article). 2A02:C7D:6449:FB00:5091:E279:9CBE:F57C (talk) 17:28, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Spintendo      07:23, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Snakes[edit]

On the section of Patrick banishes all snakes from Ireland, I think it we be relevant to talk of the similarities of this story with that of another Irish story on Goídel Glas.For instance if it was added:

Similarities in this story and another Irish myth are notable. The story of Goídel Glas, who is credited as the eponymous ancestor of the Gaels and creator of the Goidelic languages (Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Manx),appears in the 11th century pseudo-historical book Lebor Gabála Érenn (The Book of the Taking of Ireland), [1][2] In the story Goídel Glas is bitten by a snake and his life is saved by Moses placing his staff on the snakebite. As a reminder of the incident he retains a green mark that would stay with him for the rest of his life. Additionally Moses tells him that no other of his people will be bitten by a snake and he would lead his people to a land that would be free of snakes. They eventually find Ireland after forty days wandering the sea[3]

If this was added after the line "Aaron's snake-staff prevails by consuming the other snakes" and before the next paragraph starting with the line "However, all evidence suggests that post-glacial Ireland never had snakes" i think this will give a more detail to people on the past authors of these stories fascination of merging Irish history and culture with that of the bible.

References

  1. ^ MacKillop, James (2005) Myths and Legends of the Celts. London. Penguin Books ISBN 9780141017945. Retrieved on 14 March 2018
  2. ^ Koch, John T. (2005). Celtic Culture: A Historical Encyclopedia Vol. 1 A-Celti. Oxford. ABC-Clio. ISBN 9781851094400
  3. ^ Macalister, Robert Alexander Stewart. (1939) Lebor gabála Érenn (The Book of the Taking of Ireland) Volume.2. Dublin. Irish Texts Society by the Educational Co. of Ireland. Retrived from Archive.com on 14 March 2018

Slate article[edit]

Slate has published an article about the quality of this article after they had asked two professors to review it. My congratulations to everyone who has worked to get this article to such a high standard. ϢereSpielChequers 17:48, 19 March 2018 (UTC)