Talk:Saint Peter

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Peter's nationality[edit]

I believe St Peter should appear under the following Wiki category page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_popes

So the following text should be added to the St Peter page: Category:Jewish popes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minneapolisite (talkcontribs) 17:55, 15 March 2013‎

Strong Association with Gabriel[edit]

By induction from the Scriptures and the common unauthorized narratives, Gabriel has a strong association with St. Peter, and visa versa. I can't cite anything, unfortunately, but consider that it is common belief (you may have heard) that Gabriel guards the pearly gates, the Gates of Heaven, and Peter, in juxtaposition, holds the Keys of Heaven, given to him by Jesus, and in the common narrative prospective inductees always meet St. Peter at the Gates of Heaven. idk, maybe they're both there... maybe they share the work in shifts, or maybe they're the same person and an artist formerly of the band Genesis. Regardless, unless its some sacred secret, someone with references maybe ought to write a section with some indunction and conjecture concerning the existence of a strong association with St. Peter. --- me again... here is something interesting: http://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Archangel_Gabriel_and_St._Peter,_Royal_Doors.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.77.45.219 (talk)

Antioch[edit]

The line "Claims of direct blood lineage from Simon Peter among the old population of Antioch existed in the 1st century" is confusing. Does the source in question really indicate a first century claim of descent? Seems perhaps a typo as that would be awfully early for anyone to make a big deal out of being descended from him. Wickedjacob (talk) 07:26, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

See also section, Portal updates[edit]

Greetings, Today, I removed the portals for Saints, Pope and Catholicism because these are already included in the article's Navbox templates (in the below = parameter). This is per MOS/Layout, See_also_section which states that As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes.. In addition, I added portals for Biography, Christianity, and History since these relate to the article being a Bio. and of a historical figure important at the beginnings of Christianity. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 20:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Discussion: is this article Class = B level?[edit]

Greetings, wondering if an expert editor would consider this article for upgrading to Class B (or even FA)? Even though I've completed a number of WP Catholicism article assessments, mostly class=stub,start and C level, it would be helpful for fresh sets of eyes to review this one. Thanks! Cheers, JoeHebda (talk) 20:33, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Article currently has two 'Relics' sections which unsurprisingly seem to partly contradict each other[edit]

Following previous bad experiences, I don't want to try to edit another religious article, but might I point out that this article currently has two 'Relics' sections (one called Burial and Relics) which unsurprisingly seem to partly contradict each other, so perhaps somebody else might please try to clean it up. Tlhslobus (talk) 02:45, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I removed some recent scribblings, and then examined the two sections you mention. I didn't detect any contradiction, but I did merge them so there is no duplication now. Thank you for pointing it out. Elizium23 (talk) 03:42, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Elizium23. Just for the record, one partial contradiction was that the Relics section (which you have now sensibly transferred) contained an unsourced statement (which you have now removed - thanks again) stating that the Church recognized the bones as those of St. Peter, whereas the Burial and Relics section merely says that Paul VI had said they were very likely to be his bones, and the Guardian article that is cited as a source for the bit about Pope Francis also says that the Church has never officially recognized them as Peter's bones (and that Vatican Jesuits and many archaeologists strongly reject the claim). That article also points out that they were eventually found in a shoe-box in a cupboard belonging to a building worker after supposedly being given to him when the 'Peter Here' monument and casket were first dug up (the article doesn't explicitly say that such a provenance might be a cause for some mild scepticism, though I don't recall Howard Carter deciding to give Tutankhamun's bones to a local worker to hide in his cupboard, even if this is perhaps not an exact analogy). Thanks again. Tlhslobus (talk) 00:03, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
By the way, the link for the Paul VI stuff now seems to be dead.Tlhslobus (talk) 00:57, 16 July 2015 (UTC)