Talk:Salvatore J. Cesarani

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Sal is a notable person - he's already noted here for receiving an award. The Coty Award was meant for pioneers of the American Fashion industry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coty_Award

And he is held in high regard and acknowledged as a notable person among his peers.

Help me to improve this page.

What are the biggest edits necessary. It would be very helpful if someone could provide a bit more of a critique/guidance. I would like our contribution to lend itself to a rich overview of the American Fashion Industry and history of American Fashion Designers.

Thank you. Cesarani21 (talk) 16:13, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't panic and hang in there - I'll have a look at this and see if I can save it. I don't agree that he is non-notable, and I disagree that the page should be deleted, but it is probably best under Sal Cesarani if this is the name under which he is better known. Anyone who has won a Coty Award certainly did so because they were considered significant in fashion at the time - and he won several! It just needs to be Wikified and de-personalised a little bit, I'll have a look at this and see what I can do. So don't worry. Mabalu (talk) 17:44, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cesarani21 - I'm afraid that while you had a lot of wonderful information about Sal, I couldn't find anywhere where it was published or written other than on here. I therefore had to rely on what I could find online and back up with reference to published sources. For example, I can't find any references to his being in the Army with Elvis, or dressing Farrah Fawcett, though I believe you when you say that he did. But Wikipedia really needs published resources to back up information like this - I'm afraid we can't rely on word of mouth, much as we'd love to. Also, it's not good practice to rely on a subject's personal website to fill out their Wikipedia page. There are literally dozens of very interesting sounding articles on Google News Archive about Sal Cesarani - interviews, reports on shows, etc, but they are all pay per view. I haven't maliciously or deliberately deleted your original information - it can all be viewed here in case anyone is interested to see what was there before. But with Wikipedia, it is considered essential to rely on secondary sources. (I'm not a fan of fashionencyclopaedia.com, I must admit, as I've found it unreliable in the past, but for the purposes of finding references for this entry, it has been useful.) I hope that you don't mind too much that I had to cut out a lot of the really interesting information. Mabalu (talk) 00:24, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]