Talk:Sam Houston

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Sam Houston NOT as senator[edit]

The photograph claimed to be of Sam Houston as a senator is from 1861, two years afterwards. A photo from his time as a senator exists, it shows him sporting a moustache. ( http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.26824/ ) - very, very different than he chose to look later on. 2601:7:9700:DB:4D9E:A47F:100B:2C0B (talk) 04:40, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Taken care of. Thanks for mentioning this. — Maile (talk) 22:05, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Improving Perhaps improving the article to FA[edit]

Karanacs - in the long haul, Houston seemed to be more far-sighted than other leaders in Texas of that time. Not only did he prove to have better military instincts than other leaders in Texas at that time, but he also seemed to have a better grasp of the Texas need to be part of the union. History proved him correct on the need for annexation, and on the decision of secession. At San Pedro Springs Park he delivered a 2-hour speech arguing against secession . Nobody in their right mind today would listen to a politician talk for 2 hours. But he was the head peacock of his day - must have been a big deal to see the living legend show up. I don't have the Moore book here at home, but there's an interesting quote by a soldier during the Runaway Scrape. It's when Houston and other leaders are giving their "Remember the Alamo!, Remember Goliad!" speeches before the troops. The soldier said that Houston was so dynamic in style that if Houston had said jumping off Niagara Falls would save Texas, the soldier would have jumped off Niagara Falls. — Maile (talk) 18:51, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I just started reading Moore today. I've only finished the introduction and Chapter 1 and already found a few factual/editing errors (most glaring was referring to the Convention of 1836 as the Consultation). It's an easy read, though, and I'm looking forward to getting to the parts I don't know as well, which unfortunately for Texas Revolution is basically the entire San Jacinto campaign/Runaway Scrape time period (my primary focus last time was the Alamo because the original article embarrassed me). The effort for this article is going to be huge - Houston had so many fans and so many detractors that there will be a lot of reading to strike the right balance. I've got The Raven at home, but I haven't had a chance to read it, and I think there are a few other noted biographies of him out there too. This is an article I desperately want to improve (the man is fascinating), yet it will be hard to do...
My longtime goal has been to bring List of Texas Revolution battles to featured topic status; I've gotten 6 of the 12 battle articles promoted to FA; my priorities post-Texas Rev will (likely) be a) San Patricio and Agua Dulce - short articles, research pretty much done, easy to get promoted if I just sit down and write, b) Siege of Bexar has all the research and half the writing done, c) Refugio requires a little more research, d) Coleto needs more research ... which will also provide the facts for Goliad Massacre and e) San Jacinto needs a lot more research. Of course, I frequently get distracted (which is why To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World is FA ... and part of what led to burnout, because I could write about details of the Alamo for the next 10 years and likely not cover everything/everyone) ... so who knows, especially if there's a collaboration at work ;) Karanacs (talk) 19:28, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
There will be collaboration, and not just me. You just state your intentions here and on the Military History project, and volunteers will be forthcoming. I ran across another interesting "living legend" incident when working on Margaret Lea Houston. When she and her mother finally convinced him to get baptized, in public in a creek, lookie-loos arrived from near and far to watch old Sam submit himself to God (or his mother-in-law, perhaps). — Maile (talk) 19:40, 22 December 2014 (UTC)