Talk:Scarlet Traces

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Alterations of 16 March 2007 explained[edit]

Tidied up first para. Removed reference to current publisher, as publisher is ephemeral and of peripheral relevance -- note that first series has already had 3 publishers. Dated first series' publication as 2002, the year of its first print publication.

Note that the (web)comic adaptation of War of the Worlds is, if anything, a prequel to Scarlet Traces, as ST's publication predates it.

Dating the stories: although Wells' WotW is set "early in the 20th century", STtGG dates the invasion as Summer 1898 (#1 p06). ST itself takes place exactly 10 years later, thereby dating it at 1908 (collected ed. p10). And STtGG is set forty years after that (#1 p09), therefore 1948.

Emperor, thanks for fixing my incorrect usage of the citation tags.

Jack Garfield 01:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Dates[edit]

Good work on expansion and tidying up! However just a small and pedantic point:

STtGG apparently takes place in 1938-39. Reasons:

- Home Secretary Oswald Mosley states (#1 p09) "Forty years ago, Britain alone thwarted the Martian threat to this planet" i.e. 1898 plus 40 years = 1938.

- "nine year old" Princess Margaret Rose becomes Heir Presumptive after the rest of the Royal Family (and London) are wiped out in the final stages of the Martian War (#4 p21). The lady was born in 1930 plus 9 years = 1939.

- the Spanish Civil War (1936-39) is still going at the start of STtGG (#1 p09). However this is a parallel universe and anything is possible.

210.246.9.50 04:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


You're absolutely right — it's 40 years after the invasion, not after the first series, as I'd had it. Duh. My bad, and thanks for the correction.

Jack Garfield 01:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Graphic Novel or Comic?[edit]

Grateful if Emperor would explain why "Scarlet Traces" is a comic story rather than a graphic novel. While the boundary between the two is rather fuzzy ST would seem to fit the generally accepted criteria (see Graphic Novel 203.97.144.44 22:32, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Well just read the publication history - serialised as a comic series in Judge Dredd Megazine, published as a comic book by Dark Horse and then collected as a trade paperback. It is a comic story within the definition of comics. Technically it has never been a graphic novel, the closest it gets is that it was eventually collected together in one volume (technically a trade paperback not a graphic novel - except for the marketing types) but it was initially published a serialised comic series. (Emperor 23:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC))

Spry?[edit]

Has it already been pointed out that Davenport Spry may be the father or grandfather of Christopher Phillip "Flamer" Spry, a Dan Dare character? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.113.229.35 (talk) 22:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

"References in other works by Edginton and D'Israeli"[edit]

I have to say I don't think this is a relevant section. The point is that Scarlet Traces could not exist without The War Of the Worlds, the one flows from the other. Generally these sections for "Other works", or "media" are references to either unconnected works, or those that only have a distant connection - not those that are intrinsic to each other.

This is equivalent to stating that characters in "The Empire Strikes Back" were also in scenes from a previous film by George Lucas called "Star "Wars", or that a characters from "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" were also present in the earlier work "Raiders of the Lost Ark".

If Autumn or Spry were to pop up in Leviathan, or vice versa, and Detective Lament were to be part of the police force in Scarlet Traces - that warrants inclusion, but not when the two stories are part of the same arc or series. Chaheel Riens (talk) 20:01, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

  • I appreciate your point but the connections mentioned are of some interest in that they give additional insights into several of the Scarlet Traces characters; through their appearances in other times and contexts. If the article is to be slimmed down then perhaps some of the excessive detail relating to "Great Game" could also be taken out. Anyway lets see what other editors think. Buistr (talk) 20:31, 13 March 2017 (UTC)