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Organinzation[edit]

Is there any noted reason why the Lego movie is being counted in the direct to video list? I ask because it clearly has a preface title in front of it, which is exactly the same way they name the DC Lego movies to separate them. As well as the puppet source animation one had it's own preface title in front of it too. I think that is supposed to count it as it's own franchise.

And it you don't count the puppet one here nor do you count the lego ones over on the DC list, why exactly is it counted here?24.35.37.226 (talk) 10:53, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

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S.C.O.O.B Retitling[edit]

Guys on the release date change article and the warner bros animation page kn our very own wikipedia the film was titled Scooby when i try to update this page it keeps getting removed what am i missing Jstar367 (talk) 18:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

On* Jstar367 (talk) 18:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

@Jstar367: You should check the article's edit history to find out why a change you made was reverted. In this case, editor Katniss reverted your edit because it was unsourced. See our reliable sourcing guidelines. Your change was also not a complete sentence, so that's additionally problematic. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:15, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
It was sourced it had the article i am not understanding Jstar367 (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
@Jstar367: It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the film was retitled. You're simply presuming that because they referred to the film as "Scooby" in the article (which is logical as it's also the name of the franchise) that the title was suddenly changed, yet nowhere in the article does it state this. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 14:40, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
After reading this, I can understand why Jstar thinks the film has been retitled. The phrasing is such that I could see assuming that myself. But it's not explicit, so we should probably wait before arriving at a conclusion that film has been retitled. Wikipedia has no deadline. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Sorry if I wasn't clear in my wording. I agree that we should wait, since it doesn't explicitly state anywhere that the film has been retitled, nor can I find any other articles that refer to the film as simply "Scooby." We don't want to confuse anyone with preconceived assumptions that the movie has suddenly been retitled, so unless anyone has a strong reason to not wait, I'd say it's safer to leave it as is for now until we find a source that explicitly states a retitling or one that is not up for the reader's interpretation. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 16:48, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
I second katniss but there is an article about warner bros release date changes including godzilla vs kong and Scooby or S.C.O.O.B or whatever you wanna call it on comingsoon.net just scroll down youll find it Jstar367 (talk) 00:08, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
@Jstar367: Yep, the release date has already been changed to reflect what the article says :) - Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 14:14, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/844461-godzilla-vs-kong-and-more-release-date-changes-from-warner-bros - there is the article about the release date changes and the S.C.O.O.B retitling just scroll down until you see the scooby doo date and youll see its been changed to scooby. Jstar367 (talk) 14:29, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
What are others' opinions on this? Since it doesn't specifically mention a retitling, I still stand by my previous statement that we should wait until we can find something that actually says the movie has been retitled, rather than just simply referring to the movie as "Scooby." Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 17:12, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Agree. "Crystal Balls" are usually frowned upon in Wikipedia. Ckruschke (talk) 19:33, 10 May 2017 (UTC)Ckruschke
Ouch OK fine alright but if it ends up being retitled I'm sayin I told you so Jstar367 (talk) 10:55, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
@Jstar367: I apologize if either one of us offended you, but this isn't intended to be a game of "I told you so!" There is probably a likely chance the movie will be retitled, but sometimes to have the most accurate information, we have to wait until a source explicitly states "this film will be retitled..." or whatever the case may be. Otherwise, it's essentially up for the reader to interpret, which could cause misconceptions or inaccuracies in the article, especially when/if other changes for the film occur. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 15:56, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Jstar367: Nothing said here should be taken personally. I certainly didn't intend my reply to be cutting. Wikipedia editing rules are impersonal. Since you are new, I'm just trying to help you understand what those rules are. My suggestion to wait until it is finalized was first stated above by Cyphoidbomb on 8 May. Ckruschke (talk) 16:59, 11 May 2017 (UTC)Ckruschke

Ok ok i get the gist i was just confused ill wait but if something comes up can you please update it Jstar367 (talk) 23:25, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

It's really no issue, as Ckruschke mentioned above Wikipedia's policies are great in some ways, but it does make for a very impersonal conversation when trying to explain it to someone who is new editing Wikipedia. You didn't do anything "wrong" so you shouldn't feel bad about being confused. If anything that explicitly says it's being retitled is found and it hasn't been updated, I'll be sure to update the article. Cheers and may the odds of editing being ever in your favor. :) Katniss 01:56, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks katniss wlli do in that case you might just wanna call it the untitled scooby doo animated film then Jstar367 (talk) 13:57, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
For now Jstar367 (talk) 13:57, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
@Jstar367: Thanks for the suggestion, but I think it's best to leave the title as is for now, so people know it's the same project as before. Thank you for suggesting though! Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 14:14, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. Ckruschke (talk) 17:07, 12 May 2017 (UTC)Ckruschke

Alright i just thought since it said Scooby i thought it was retitled i really mean to make a whole discussion page dedicated to it. im very sorry for that i was just wanting to fulfill my civic duty to update the page Jstar367 (talk) 18:12, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Didn't* Jstar367 (talk) 18:13, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Again @Jstar367:, you did nothing wrong so there's no need to apologize for anything. When I first joined Wikipedia, I didn't have time to edit a lot so it took me quite a while to learn the policies, and I made plenty of mistakes myself. My point being, despite Wikipedia being a great community, it is incredibly confusing to all new editors (including myself when I first joined) to learn all the policies. I understand you're new and that learning Wikipedia policies are intricate and challenging to grasp. So I totally get it. :) Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 19:54, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks katniss then in that case you need to fix the movie lists on warner bros and warner bros animation Jstar367 (talk) 23:55, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh, thanks! I just fixed those pages and linked to this discussion in case anyone else has more input on the matter. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 01:12, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Guys, please don't go changing sourced content at List of Warner Bros. films. The cited source in that article, Variety Insight, says it's untitled. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:27, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, that source seems to have given us a concrete answer to our discussion then. It seems the film is now untitled and Jstar367 was right all along. My apologies for the erroneous change, NinjaRobotPirate, somehow my eye just saw the "S.C.O.O.B." in the source and missed the "untitled" part. Just goes to show that even experienced users occasionally make mistakes! :) Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 02:02, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

I was?.....i mean of course i was i saw every news article about it im a movie buff extraordinaire Jstar367 (talk) 14:44, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Ha. Well, it's very difficult to find reliable information on upcoming films. Variety Insight is one of the few websites I really trust. It's run by Variety, a trade magazine that's more than 100 years old, and it's based on direct input from the studios themselves. A lot of the other stuff on the internet is based on rumors. I've been making very, very slow progress in sourcing these lists of films, and I get a little irritable when I see my work reverted back to internet rumors. I apologize for that. But if you guys have questions, you're welcome to bring them to WT:FILM. We're usually more friendly than this, and there are some people there who are knowledgeable about where to find sources. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:18, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Well...i use comingsoon.net which usually is a reliable source thats where i get all of my information from Jstar367 (talk) 22:08, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate It's no problem, my own fault for not being more careful when reading the source. For now, I think there's not much further needed with this discussion (as Variety Insight seems to be quite reputable/reliable, and it syncs up with other sources which now refer to the movie as simply 'Scooby' rather than the formerly announced title, S.C.O.O.B.). But I will be sure to bring any questions I have to WT:FILM if needed! Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor 22:47, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Alright Will do Jstar367 (talk) 02:16, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

As there is no info so far we need to call it the untitled scooby doo movie for now until a title is chosen Jstar367 (talk) 01:27, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

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TUESDAY WELD WAS THALIA MENNINGER[edit]

Some people may not remember but "Thalia Menninger" was played by famous actress Tuesday Weld, in a recurring role on Dobie Gillis for the first season. Her character was similar to Archie Comics' own Veronica Lodge for whom Dobie competed with a character portrayed by Warren Beatty! As Daphne (from Scooby Doo) is based on the Menninger character, I don't think we should overlook Weld's influence on the character, no matter how small or large; or at least provide a link for cross reference purposes, which I admit I do not know how to do. MARK VENTURE (talk) 17:48, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

@MARK VENTURE: Interesting. Do you have a good reliable source we can use for that info (either a web page or an offline source such as a book or print article)? --Ahecht (TALK
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Apart from actually watching the show (Last on MeTV) and seeing her name in the credits, no. Ditto for Warren Beatty. However, over at the Wiki article about the Scooby Doo character, an article by Mark Evanier "Attention: Jerry Beck" is used as a source, and in it, he links the characters from The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis to those of Scooby Doo, Where Are You? MARK VENTURE (talk) 19:28, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Monsters[edit]

Should there be a page of List of Scooby Doo Monsters ?

92.232.119.244 (talk) 23:12, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Probably not. For the vast majority of them, if independent reliable sources discuss them at all, it's a few sentences in the plot summary. - SummerPhDv2.0 00:45, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
could we put a section on the page to summary the monsters (and the significant ones) at least. 92.232.119.244 (talk) 11:50, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Cast table[edit]

Can we add a cast table I have already started one feel free to help fill in.

cast and characters[edit]

Characters TV shows TV movies dirct to video movies Therival movies specials
Where Are You!'
(1969-78)
The New Scooby-Doo Movies
(1972–73)
‘’The Scooby-Doo Show
(1976-78)
‘’Laff-A-Lympics
(1977-78)
‘’ Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo (1979 TV series) (1979-80) Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo (1980 TV series)'
(1980-82)
The New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo Show
(1983-84)
The 13 Ghosts
(1985)
A Pup Named
(1988-91)
Those Meddling Kids
(1998)
What's New'
(2002-06)
Get a Clue!
(2006-08)
Mystery Incorporated
(2010-13)
‘’Lego Scooby-Doo’’
(2015-16)
‘’ Be Cool, Scooby-Doo!
(2015-present)
‘’ Goes Hollywood (1979) Meets the Boo Brothers
(1988)
the Ghoul School
(1988)
the Reluctant Werewolf
(1988)
Arabian Nights
(1994)
‘’ The Mystery Begins
(2009)
‘’ Curse of the Lake Monster
(2010)
‘’Zombie Island
(1998)
‘’the Witch's Ghost
(1999)
the Alien Invaders
(2000)
the Cyber Chase
(2001)
the Legend of the Vampire
(2003)
the Monster of Mexico
(2003)
‘’the Loch Ness Monster
(2004)
‘’Aloha, Scooby-Doo!
(2005)
‘’Where's My Mummy? (2005) ‘’Pirates Ahoy! ‘’Chill Out ‘’ the Goblin King
(2007)
‘’ the Samurai Sword ‘’ Abracadabra-Doo ‘’ Camp Scare’’ ‘’ Legend of the Phantosaur Scooby-Doo the movie
(2002)
Monsters Unleashed
(2004)
‘’ The Scooby-Doo project (1999) ‘’ Night of the Living Doo (2000) ‘’ Knight Time Terror (2015)
Scooby-Doo
Shaggy Rogers
Fred Jones
Velma Dinkley
Daphne Blake
Scooby-Dum
Scrappy-Doo
Flim Flam
Weerd
Bogel
Vincent Van Ghoul
Red Herring
Sugie
Gus
Carole Collossal
Elliot Blender
Thorn
Dusk
Luna
Mr. B
Crissie
Robi
Dr. Albert Shaggleford
Dr. Phineus Phibes
Mr. E
Sheriff Bronson Stone
Hot Dog Water
Mayor Fred Jones, Sr
Mayor Janet Nettles
Cassidy Williams
Professor Pericles
“Brad" Chiles
Judy Reeves
Alice may


Note: A grey cell indicates character did not appear in that medium.

talk[edit]

I've removed the chart as it runs way off the page, and the majority of characters listed do not appear in more than one series. It's generally frowned upon to create "charts" of any sort on Wikipedia, as it's professional-looking to explain what you are saying in prose if possible. See WP:PROSE for more explanation on that style convention. All of the information on this chart is explained in detail on both the main page and the character pages, so a table seems very unnecessary and redundant in this particular case. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 02:45, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
can you please help me improve this than? We could only have regular chartres that sported in more than x enrtry than also have a spoarted chart for tv shows films and specials or periods I.e 60s-80s 92.232.119.244 (talk) 10:39, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

example two[edit]

Charters Tv series TV movies Thericial Films Direct to video films Specials
Scooby-Doo Example Example Example Example
Shaggy Rogers Example Example Example Example
Velma Example Example Example Example
thorn Example Example Example Example
dust. Example Example Example Example
Scrappy-Doo Example Example Example Example

92.232.119.244 (talk) 12:12, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

The scooby project[edit]

Should there be a page for The scooby project most o the specials have one also how long is it I hread it was 10mins but I found a 17min one on utube[1] Fanoflionking (talk) 21:24, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

References

The article was previously deleted due to the special being non-notable. Offhand, I would say probably no to creating the page since it was previously deleted, but if you feel there are significant reliable sources for the article you're welcome to reopen the RfD discussion and see what the consensus is. I believe the special is 10 minutes, at least the version I've seen is. Hope this helps, Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 19:51, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

filmography[edit]

I tried to make a saprter page for all he filmography but something went wrong dose anyone care to help? Fanoflionking (talk) 23:42, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

If you want to find out why your changes were reverted, read the edit summaries. If you want to propose a split, the method is outlined at WP:SPLIT. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:27, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi and thanks for starting this discussion! I reverted your 'starter page', because per Wikipedia policy, page splits and moves must be discussed and a consensus must be reached by multiple editors (usually). Just for the future, generally it's also not acceptable to just delete info and copy-and-paste it onto another page without linking back to the main page. I guess my personal opinion on the Scooby-Doo filmography page is that everything is fine as it is now, though if anyone else has an opinion on this I'm definitely open to other perspectives! :) Cheers, Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 19:40, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
IMO, the main Scooby page is gigantic and could probably stand to have a trim. I think a filmography page would actually help the length of this INCREDIBLE LONG page, but I agree that it should be discussed. Ckruschke (talk) 18:59, 6 April 2018 (UTC)Ckruschke
I would support a list called "List of Scooby Doo media", like some franchises have.★Trekker (talk) 21:50, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Here is a Scooby-Doo filimogly for the page dose anyone want to help finish it? Fanoflionking (talk) 23:06, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Okie dokie, I fixed it up a bit, hopefully you like it. Per Ckruschke's above comment, I guess I agree that the page is pretty large and could use a separate page. Upon looking at the current draft, I have a couple minor suggestion. I think the current draft page name should be changed, especially considering there's a typo in there. I'm fine with calling it "List of Scooby-Doo media", unless anyone has other names they think would be better. Also, what are people's thoughts on including the video game and stage play charts in this page? Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 22:32, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Not too sure if plays and video games should count? But I got a some questions should Scooby-Doo: Behind the Scenes be counted as a spiceal or series also is it possible to add a total episode count? And should we have critical reception of Films? And fanily should we count Scooby's All-Star Laff-A Lympics as a series and how about compties like Mystery Funhouse --Fanoflionking (talk) 22:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)Fanoflionking (talk) 22:47, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I knew there was something I forgot to mention! I deleted the total episode count just because I think it would get a bit messy. There's a lot of confusion around whether to count the shorts individually or not in series like The Richie Rich/Scooby-Doo Show. That's not to say we definitely shouldn't add one, but I think it would cause a lot of confusion and edit warring which could be easily solved by not including the episode count, and leaving it up to reader interpretation. As for your other questions, I would say Behind the Scenes should be counted as under specials, seeing as it's just 8 less than a minute shorts which were aired together. The critical receptions of films would probably be best left on the respective pages for each of the film, rather than on the filmography page itself. I would say Scooby's All-Star Laff-a-Lympics would definitely count as a series, seeing Scooby's name is in the title. Eh, my personal opinion is we should leave the repackage shows like Scooby's Mystery Funhouse out, just because it's not "new" content and it's just an umbrella programming block for grouping the old episodes which are part of another series. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 17:44, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

The page for Where's My Mummy? says “The film had a limited theatrical release in the United States on May 13, 2005” and Scooby-Doo! & Batman: The Brave and the Bold “the Bold since the series ended in 2011. The film was premiered at the TCL Chinese Theatre[7] on January 6, 2018[8]” do we have box office for the titles Fanoflionking (talk) 18:39, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Hrmm. The Scooby-Doo, Where's My Mummy? page doesn't have that info sourced at all, meaning someone could have added something fake. The TCL Chinese Theatre would not have a box office because it was a one-time "Hollywood premiere" showing, and not something that actually made it to theaters. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 19:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Is there anythingelse we need too do (I.E photo, ertc) B4 moveing pageFanoflionking (talk) 16:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

The page looks good at this point. I would say we should wait maybe a few days to move the article into the mainspace, just to make sure no one else has any other comments or objections to splitting the page that they'd like to add to the discussion. I also moved Scoobynatural into the 'special episodes' section, seeing as its not a film and is part of another series. In the meantime, do we think the long list of series/films in the infobox should be deleted once we have this list of Scooby-Doo media? IMO it seems a bit redundant to have if we are making this page. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 18:41, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Not sure about the infobox maybe it should stay here? What do u think? Is there a picture/s we could used for the new page I.E the Scooby-Doo logo, a frame for episode or movie or even a poster for a film, ertc? Fanoflionking (talk) 22:31, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

We should keep the main page's infobox, but as I said I think we should delete the list of films/series from it, as it seems redundant to have them on that page and then also this new one. Per the Wikipedia image use policy, the image would have to be one that is free of copyright restrictions, so an episode/movie frame probably wouldn't work. The Scooby-Doo logo is probably our best option. Or we could just re-use one of the images that's on the main page. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 22:41, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I think the article looks about ready to move. Anyone else have any final questions or concerns they'd like to note before it's officially moved? Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 19:32, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

How about comic books like world of mystery and Apocalypse as well as books? Fanoflionking (talk) 21:02, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

I mean, if you want to take the time to document and type all those out on the article, more power to you! From what I've seen though, there's not really anywhere they're currently documented on Wikipedia other than a few of the comic series. You're more than welcome to add those of course, and I'm sure people would find it helpful if you added them. I however am not even close to motivated enough to take the time to document the thousands of comics and books, but tbh that's just me being lazy lol. So go ahead and add them if you like! Face-smile.svg Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 23:03, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

I added in a section of books and comics witch can be expanded Fanoflionking (talk) 08:25, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

and if u want we can move it now, and if there anything we did not do we can do it on the new page Fanoflionking (talk) 14:00, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
It looks ready to me, though I edited several of your additions in the comic section. FYI it's generally frowned upon to leave sections entirely blank, so I temporarily removed the book section until there is actually content in it. I also fixed the notes, which had various minor grammatical and capitalization errors. I also removed some non-existant links and the link to the Where Are You comic, as it would link readers to the television series that has nothing to do with the comic. Feel free to take a look at what I've done, and if you're okay with what I changed, I think it's definitely ready to be moved. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 19:05, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

I moved it and link both pages (hopefully) I Will also moved this conversation over as well so if we like to continue pealse dessction on new page. Fanoflionking (talk) 22:51, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Looks great, thanks for collaborating!! :) Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 00:13, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Scooby Doo and Guess Who?[edit]

New show just announced here, for [[Boomerang (TV channel) | Bommerang], "The new Scooby-Doo cartoon, Scooby-Doo and Guess Who?, is a team-up series in the tradition of 1972’s The New Scooby-Doo Movies. Instead of joining forces with the likes of the Harlem Globetrotters, however, Mystery Inc. will solve mysteries with contemporary all-stars, Bill Nye the Science Guy, Chris Paul, Sia and Wonder Woman. The series will be produced by Chris Bailey (Kim Possible).". Someone's already made a page for it here Scooby-Doo and Guess Who?219.88.68.195 (talk) 00:55, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done, thanks! :) Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 23:57, 29 May 2018 (UTC)