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Modest Mouse[edit]

What's with the Modest Mouse references? It's not explained anywhere here. Only on the Modest Mouse-page did I found out that he produced one (or a couple) of their records. Should be in the article somewhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Past collaborations/ NPOV discussion[edit]

A small point - I'm almost sure I first saw Steve on TV during the 2006 Glastonbury Festival. One of the TV presenters saw him on a side stage and he played in the studio late one night. I think this was before the Jools Holland prog. I missed the name but asked my son to Google 'C16' (which was close to C15 - my first motorbike). Some days later he informed me that it was 'Seasick Steve' and I immediately went out and got Dog House Music. I hope this is helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

This message was typed in the article by (Seasick Steve official information service):

Steve has asked that whoever is contributing the infomation of who Steve played with in the 60's etc to please not. He just wants people to listen to the music and figure it out themselvs. He says all this name dropping is exactly what is wrong with the blues and also what is killing it. Thanks The Skunk (Seasick Steve official information service)

To the editor from that message: with all respect, I myself am a big fan of Seasick Steve, but this article is an encyclopedic text and is not meant as a propaganda website for personal opinions, not even from Seasick Steve himself (or especially not from Seasick Steve himself: see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view). The information about who Seasick Steve preformed with is factual information with a cited source. It's meant for people who are interested in musical history. See it as a history text book.

Before editing Wikipedia again, I suggest you read the following information about this project:

Key to the city 09:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, it is possible to put Seasick Steve's own opinions in the article, but it must be done in the proper place. You can notice that I've actually included his opinion about namedropping in the trivia section, where I'm collecting different quotes from the musician and such. Key to the city 09:14, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Update: this message was left by in the main article:


I've tried contacting this person and telling him to discuss this here, but his ip keeps changing and he doesn't seem to completely get how to work with Wikipedia... So I can't reach him.

I've been reverting his edits for a while now, and I'm going to stop doing that now. For a while at least. To prevent an edit war. I'm just going to store the information he keeps removing here in the talk page:

Steve never settled in one place, living in 56 different houses in the 25 years of marriage with his Norwegian wife. Since a couple of years, Steve's home has been in Norway. A recent heart attack made him stay at one place for now, taking it easy for his health.[1]

In the sixties Steve got the chance to play together with legends like Lightnin' Hopkins and John Lee Hooker and to tour with Son House as the curtain raiser. In the nineties Steve produced all the early singles and albums of Modest Mouse (using his real name, Steve Wold). In the late nineties, he quit preforming for a long while, but an invitation to a tour with R. L. Burnside gave him the enthousiasm to start again.[2]

It's not exactly academic writing or great content, but it's useful biographic, musical information and cited facts anyway. I'll try putting it back in the main article in a couple of months or so. Actually, I hope the message-person comes here after all, before I revert again. Key to the city 12:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Update: This was removed by

During the early nineties, Seasick Steve lived in The Angelus hotel in Olympia, with Kurt Cobain as his upstair neighbour.[3]

Probably the same guy. See above. Key to the city 10:21, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Update: Moved all above content to the article page. Key to the city (talk) 14:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

my opinion was asked about it--first time anyone in the world ever asked me for an opinion on anything related to the blues :) --but with respect to this particular question I feel competent to say that such content seems appropriate to an article on any musician. His preference does not seem to be currently in the article--if it is documented from a RS it would seem interesting and relevant to put it there, and not as trivia. Further complaints should be directed to OTRS, who will explain our policies. DGG (talk) 16:01, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello (Dec 29th) First off i am sorry for not understanding how to use Wikipedia properly. It seems this is the place to contact the person who keeps inserting incorrect information about Steve. I work for Seasick Steve. Steve never went on any tour with Son House as a curtain raiser in the 60's for instance so why would you call that FACT. Just because you have read it somewhere does not mean it is fact. This is just an example. You have now had that from the direct source. We really appreciate your interest in Steve but there is so much wrong info out there and in this case we would really appreciate it if you would stop inserting it since it is actually WRONG. We cannot control the press and wouldn't want to. At least half the stuff we read about Steve is just wrong. So when we ask you(i understand now it was in the wrong forum)to not put all this name dropping it is because it is somthing that the press did and is not accurate. Thanks. (Bukktulle (talk) 08:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC))

We can only use sources you can make a reference to, see wikipedia:verification (please read this, it's very helpful). And the source I cited is an interview with Seasick Steve himself, in a serious magazine. I don't want to be rude, but you can't just state something in this encyclopedia because you claim to know how the facts are, and frankly you can claim to be anyone. If we should just trust people by what they claim to know, Wikipedia wouldn't have any credibility.
What I suggest you do is: you make a public statement in the media that a lot of those names other journalists used, were wrong. When you have that source, you can cite it and put the new info in this article.
Until then I'm going to have to trust the sources I cited.
Also, your version of your story tends to change: before you said you removed the content because Seasick Steve doesn't like the namedropping. Now you say it's because the facts are wrong... Can you explain that? Key to the city (talk) 11:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok Listen, You say you are a fan of Seasick Steve. You can write us at and I will get Steve himself to write you (although he is not very good on the computer). As far as a serious magazine, well i'm not sure there are any. Almost everytime he does an interveiw he is misquoted. For the most part the writers are too busy to listen to what he says or they have their own agenda ie. Steve never said that he toured with Son House.FACT. We thought maybe here on Wikipedia we could at least try and correct things. Concerning your issue about changing stories, since both issues are concerns, we thought we could address one and you would understand. However I am starting to think your main concern is just to contribute and be some kind of authority on Seasick Steve, which you are not. So I challange you to write to Steve and ask him youself. Then you will have a REAL fact. I do find it amazing that you are so preoccupied with who he played with. Steve has told me he is so tired of the name dropping that has always gone on, especially in the blues, that it has really lost all credibility, particularly with young people. He has really tried to do something differnt and then there is always someone trying to catagorize and put in some kind of historical box just so they can understand it and thereby making it normal. This is always what white people have done. Maybe this once we could just not? Anyway why not write Steve himself since you are, as you say, a fan. The Skunk (Bukktulle (talk) 20:12, 29 December 2007 (UTC))

The main point of my last response was: I can't change the info here, without having a written source I can cite. It doesn't matter if Seasick Steve himself would have told me or not. How can people check if what I write is really what Seasick Steve said if there isn't a source cited? How would they know I didn't just make up that Seasick Steve told it to me? Maybe you can publish somehow on your official website that Seasick Steve never played with Son House, then I can refer to that as a source. I want to believe you, but now, my hands are tied. Please read this link if you haven't already, it explains a lot: wp:verification.
It is like you said a "historical box" I want to create. Why? Because that's the goal of Wikipedia: collecting facts and history. People don't come here to find a text on Seasick Steve how he himself would write it, that's when they go to your website.
I am a fan. And I'm not happy to write something in the article that Seasick Steve wouldn't want to. But that's the thing, even though I am a fan, in an objective encyclopedia like Wikipedia, you can't let personal opinions have an influence on what's written.
And don't make personal attacks. Or racist remarks. I'm just trying to be objective about this. Key to the city (talk) 21:09, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Steve's Wikipedia site was started by a 15 year old fan named Jim. It has been going along without ANYONE feeling the need to put inaccurate info on it EXCEPT you. Strange? You claim your hands are tied. Untrue! You can just stop writting here anytime. You spoke of a serious magazine as your source and just feel compelled to parrot it. I will give you another serious source. Maybe you can quote them too. The LONDON TIMES did a whole page interview with Steve. In this interveiw Steve was asked about a video he was doing. It turned out that right after filmimg Amy Whinehouse came in. Steve and her are sort of friends. Amy came up and hugged Steve and they had a drink together,FACT. The London times wrote that the person who came up to Steve was Lilly Allen. This was not just a mistake. They had already written earlier, about Amy Whinehouse in another article so they in their SERIOUS kind of way thought there was already too much about her so they just inserted Lilly Allens name. This was their explanation when we asked them. This was the London Times. The most serious source of 'news' in the UK. Maybe you can add that bit of untruth too. It is printed which according to you makes it true and fact. If you want I can give you a whole bunch of misquotes, outright lies etc in magazines you can use on Wikipedia since magazines are really the only REAL source. You have claimed you are just trying to be balanced but continue to use only one magazine as a ref. even after you have been told it is wrong. It is a bit like a broken record. Why don't you try and find another source to back up your story if you are so insistant about what you are writting. It seems incredibly lazy. I am just trying to point out to you that you have some wrong info but because you read it in a Belgian magazine you think it must be truth and just have to write it. Does that not sound a little strange in retrospect? Steve will be in Belgian on the 21st of Jan. at the AB box in Brussels. Maybe you you would like to explain to him personnally why you feel compelled (as a fan) to keep puttin up wrong info for people to read with the only reason, that you read it in a magazine.

p.s. Another funny thing is you are the only one quoting refrences and just from one magazine. Strange. Maybe you should delete what young jim has written because he has no 'source'? (Bukktulle (talk) 08:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC))

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bukktulle (talkcontribs) 08:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC) 
To address all the points you mention:
1) My hands are tied because I don't make the rules here. If you would just read this: wp:verifiability.
2) I call the Belgian magazine serious because it is one of the most respected here. I'm NOT saying it's absolute truth, I'm saying I can't just change it because you say so. It's about letting people decide if they're going to trust the source I gave or not. That's all. Wikipedia is not 'the truth'. It's a collection of information found in other places. Places reader can read for themselves, and than decide on what to believe. That's the way it works here. If you have a problem with that I'm not the person to complain to.
3) So Son House is a fault. I want to accept that. And the other names, they're all wrong? And Seasick Steve never worked with Modest Mouse on their album? It does say so on their album if I'm not mistaken. That's wrong too? What do I have to write as a history: Steve played a bit in the past and now all of the sudden he's a big name? There is more 'name dropping' in the article: KC Douglas, Tommy Johnson, The Level Devils, Jools Holland, Charlie Gillett, Andy Kershaw, Rob Da Bank, James 'Super Chikan' Johnson... These are okay?
4) I said don't make personal attacks on me.
Frankly I don't care with who Seasick Steve played in the past, not even a bit. I'm trying to make an encyclopedia. The way it works is: I find some info in a decent source, I write it down. Someone else finds some more somewhere else, he writes it down. Etc. And that I can't take your word for it are the rules here, not a matter about who believes who. The rules which do have a purpose, you know. I really suggest you read the link I gave you.
I would like to explain to Seasick Steve how things work here. I know he doesn't like it. But because I am a fan I should just do everything the way he would like it? Key to the city (talk) 10:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
To conclude this: I don't see any sign of progression, in this conversation. It's going to cost a lot of energy from both of us, if we keep discussing like this, and it's not worth it. I'll keep the names out of the article. Who knows, maybe I'll look for a bunch of references in the future, if that would make you accept it. Key to the city (talk) 14:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I found an interesting discussion on the subject. Might be useful just to reflect his opinion in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok so you both sound like spoilt kids. However I do believe that the person who the article is about's wishes should be taken into consideration. There may not be rules against including the information you want to, but it might just be polite. It doesnt sound like a case of an artist wanting facts supressed for "image" reasons, just seems that Steve has a moral objection to what type of information should be displayed, so maybe that objection should be complied with, like any other religious or moral feeling. It won't be the end of the world if you can't cite a few names. daz —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Just a few comments with regards to Wikipedia guidelines:

  • For those who (claim to) know Steve - please have a look at this editing guideline for people who are mentioned in Wikipedia articles.Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Help. Note the following quote from the conflict of interest section: "In brief, users who are personally connected to a topic are expected to leave their biases "at the door". This is expected even if the article is about you".
  • Whether or not information should be included in the article should be discussed solely in light of Wikipedia guidelines. Any "moral or religious" assertions presented by a subject of a Wikipedia article about what should or should not be included in their own article is no more valid than similar assertions presented by ANYONE else on Wikipedia about ANY article. Whether or not Steve hates namedropping is irrelevant - this is an article may be about him but it does not belong to him.
  • The important thing here is NOT whether "who he has played with in the past" (or "who the papers claim he has played with in the past" as the case may be) is true or not, but whether it is a piece of (mis)information of interest enough to be worthy of inclusion in the article, and whether it is cited by a suitable source. Phonemonkey (talk) 13:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


So, is this guy only popular in England? Much is made of appearances on obscure British television and tours of England but that's about all. I'm wondering if it is because he's only known in England or is it a matter of gross English centric writing. Gingermint (talk) 20:18, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I think he just exploded in popularity in England. I was watching Top Gear and Jeremy Clarkson himself talked about how much of a sensation he has become after he was invited by BBC to appear on Jools Holland's show. Kodos84 (talk) 07:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure where to put this, but it's never mentioned, and i'm not learned in the ways of editing wiki articles. Steve played the openhousefestival in belfast, in 2005. He played at the John Hewitt bar

"Speaking ahead of his Belfast show Seasick Steve, whose real name is Steven Wold, said the 2005 gig was a turning point.

“It’s probably the reason I’m playing music,” he said.

“If I hadn’t done that gig at the Open House Festival in Belfast, I don’t think I’d be playing music now.”

Read more:"

Just think that if this is how he feels, it deserves a mention — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

When Did He Run Away?[edit]

I thought he ran away from home when he was 14 years old, as per his song, dog house boogie ('I left home when i was 14 years of age/i figured i could do it better on my own'), but it's been changed to 13. Does anyone know for definate?JimHxn (talk) 15:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I kind of figured this was where the misunderstanding came from: I'm pretty sure he actually sings "I left home before (or befo') I was 14 years of age." He also mentioned 13 at a show if I'm not mistaken (pukkelpop 2007), and that's also what my source says. Listen to it again, and tell me what you think. Key (talk) 17:54, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Yep! Ok, thank you, I agree with you, after re-listening. Just wondered thats all! Cheers JimHxn (talk) 21:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Key (talk) 09:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I've heard Steve say that in the song too. But this report [1], which is substantial and interesting, quotes him saying "Leaving home at 14 wasn't my choice." That may be a stronger reference than what he says during the song. Let's keep the issue open.
Earthlyreason (talk) 12:22, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Not done: {{edit protected}} is not required for edits to unprotected pages, or pending changes protected pages. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:50, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Steve's age[edit]

An anonymous user ( is repeatedly removing Steve's age, and claiming there is “speculation in the media” about it, without giving references. He/she writes that Steve does not want his age known, but should note that this is an encyclopedia, not a fan page.

I have put back the long-standing birth date of 'circa 1941', along with three references [2][3][4]. (It is possible to find a year older or younger [5], [6], hence the use of 'circa'.) But this user's attempt to introduce doubt about his age is not supported by the evidence.

Please revert any further such unreferenced deletion.

A point this user makes about Steve's superstition following a heart attack (eg. see [7]) could go back in, but not in the lead paragraph. It would refer to his character and experience, not the basic fact of his age.

Finally, as a show of good faith, I have retained the same user's note that Steve's son designs and runs Steve's official websites (even though it is unreferenced). Earthlyreason (talk) 21:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

He is born in 1951. It is from the Norwegian tax office. —Preceding unsigned comment added by

(talk) 04:56, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Not convinced that his age is correct, he stated in an interview in 2000 so maybe part of the embilishment of his backstory is to increase his age. Best guess based on this article is 62. Similarly backed up by the Norwegian tax office record above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:38, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Steve Wold is an American citizen and pays taxes in the USA. This Norwegian tax document is nonsense.

Steven Gene Wold may be an American passport holder, can you provide evidence of that and of him solely paying taxes in the USA? He certainly has a company in Norway and will pay taxes in that country. The Norwegian tax office reference is not bogus. see . His age was given correctly by himself in the days when he was not famous as a performer nor trying to create a 'certain' persona. It's only now that hazing of his age has become an issue. His DOB is 1951, if this cannot be verified beyond all reasonable doubt then there should be no DOB quoted at all. Currently the best estimate has two sources. see for Norwegian tax office record.

I have been following your discussions with some humor. I don't know if this helps but i went to school with Steve. He was in my sisters class in 7th grade. She will be turning 72 in July so he has to be around the same age. He left school soon after. We kept in contact for many years but eventually we didn't here from him any more. I am happy to hear how well he is doing now.

That's interesting. Earthlyreason (talk) 11:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

3 string tuning[edit]

The 3 string trance wonder is stringed and tuned as follows (shown in 6 string tab format):

No String
G string tuned to B
D string tuned to G (8va)
No String
E string tuned to G
No String

Hope this clears things up!

JimHxn (talk) 20:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


Hi All,

There are many quotes regarding his correct age. Perhaps if people who are related to Steve in Norway stopped editing WP to suit themsleves we may get closer to reality. Steven Gene Leach is recorded as being born in 1951 see This is Steve Wold's name at borth and the name he used for many years. He Married his current wife using this name, see So, two references to Steve Wold's (born as Steve Leach) age. Whatever name he chooses to use is none of my business, but his DOB is 1951. Furthermore in the late 1990's to early 2000's Steve Wold made multiple usenet postings where he discussed his work and relationship to various artistes, these are a matter of fact and not in dispute. In those postings he used an email address than was based on his US amateur radio licence. This is listed by the FCC and, again, is not a fact that is in doubt. I do not wish to give this information unless neccessary.

I do not want to see this edit-war continue, unless backed by fact and reference in this talk page. All future edits regarding his age will be regarded as vandalism and reverted unless discussed beforehand on this talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trunky

You are making some pretty big assumptions here. I have no problem with what has been said about his age but to state catagorically that Steve Wolds name at birth was this or that seems to be pretty baseless upon what you have presented. Nothing you have presented here connects these two people at all. How do you know this was his name. You have not made that connection at all. You have just made, as far as I can see, statements based on hersay.

Follow the links given, see for yourself. Unless Steve's current wife married anothere Steven Gene XXXXX in the same year that she married Steven Gene Wold then.... Heck, you know what I am saying. Steve used to use the email address which is his USA amateur radio callsign, which according to the FCC is allocated to

Anyway, far far more evidence of actual fact than you are providing for your vandalism, so, unless you can provide evidence to the contrary then please cease your vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trunky (talkcontribs) 21:05, 1 June 2013 (UTC)|ans=no

I challange anyone on here to find one article, ONE article where Steve Wold has stated or confirmed how old he is. You all act like this is somthing he has created when in reality it has all been created by the press and some people on Wiki. All this becuase he has not talked about his age. Amazing! You also claim you do not care what name he goes by but keep insisting on putting up another name you claim was his (obviously not his any longer, if ever). Even if it were true, you contradict yourself. Sounds to me like you have some personal issues here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:00, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Sure, no problem, please read from December 2000 where Steve Wold before he became famous as an artiste and was plain old Steve Wold of Moon Music said ""This is it," says Wold about his reasons for leaving. "I'm finished with America. I'm 50 years old now, and I've been watching greed play the main stage since I was a teenager. I just can't stand it anymore." "
 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trunky (talkcontribs) 08:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC) 

Good work! But old news. Just like all the other articles where he has been miss quoted this also must be the truth just because its printed. I was actually speaking of an article since he has been well known. I also noticed you have not commented about your personel motivation. Smells a little. Will be repoting you to Wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:01, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

My only motivation is to help create a factual wikipedia, not resort to personal attacks like you seem to be interested in. What is your motivation for changing the DOB? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trunky (talkcontribs) 13:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
I strongly feel that Steve's name should be changed back to what it was listed as previously, "Steven Gene Wold". The reason for this is that, regardless of whether or not the connection you seem to have made to "Leach" is accurate or not, it's pretty obvious that Steve's right legal name is (and has clearly been for many years) "Wold". If, in fact, the Steve Leach you've found is the same Steve Wold this Wikipedia article is about, he surely had some personal reason for changing his name and I think we should show a little decency and respect that.
Every single article and reference with regards to Steve and his music is all under the name "Steve Wold" and so I don't see any point or benefit to continuing like this. In the same way that you wouldn't go on some famous married woman's Wikipedia article and forcibly change her name back to her maiden name. What's the point?
At the end of the day, we're not talking about a politician we've voted into office that's making big important decisions that will affect all of us -- we're talking about a musician and an artist and it's obscene to think that every little detail of their past lives should be dug up and put on display just for the sake of it.
There are plenty of other, more important inaccuracies all over Wikipedia that would be better served by your attentions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ommony (talkcontribs) 13:32, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
The heading is "Birth name" not currently used name, and follows the WP BLP policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trunky (talkcontribs) 13:41, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Following on from there, you don't have any way of knowing whether "Leach" was his birth name. You've made a somewhat convincing connection that Steve went by the name "Leach" at some point in his life, but there isn't any actual proof. Besides, Steve has made mention of being adopted at a very young age and could very well have changed names several times. The point is, there's no way to know for sure without actually speaking with Steve, and more importantly, it's not at all relevant to his career, music, public life, wikipedia article, or anything else.
The reason I had changed his age/birthdate back to the commonly cited, is that your changes rely heavily on the assumption that the circumstantial evidence you have about this supposed "Leach" connection is accurate. Again, lacking any concrete proof, I don't see the point in continuing to confuse the issue. All you're accomplishing, really, is for people that visit the article to be constantly getting different answers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:31, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

I added semi-protection recently after a request on RfPP from Trunky. Trunky, I see now that you're adding material about the subject and the subject's wife that isn't sourced to secondary sources, which is a violation of the BLP policy, specifically WP:BLPPRIMARY. Whatever the secondary sources say, and what the subject says about himself, is what this article should say, with few exceptions. I've reverted some of the recent changes, though I'm not sure how far back it would be best to go. I'm therefore going to lift the semi-protection in case there are other issues. Please proceed with caution given that this is a BLP. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 16:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Jail and concerts[edit]

Last first: the itemising of what amoints to a chronological list of concert appearances in the UK is undue weight & arguably promotional/fan cruft.

SS has admitted to bring jailed but I don't know what for. Eg: "Back in the 60s when I talked to black people, especially like when I was in jail, about the blues, they said don't talk that slave shit to me. They were uninterested." - Blues America: Bright Lights, Big City (BBC 2013, broadcast of 6 December 2013 on BBC Four, ca. 20 minutes in). - Sitush (talk) 20:30, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Georgina Leach - Realationship to Seasick Steve??[edit]

It is reported that Steven Gene Wold took his wifes surname upon marriage and his birth name is Steven Gene Leach. What is the relationship between Steven and Georgina? The only documented children are male, so presumably an unknown child or close releative.

Any clues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:45, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Ten refs for birth day?[edit]

Do we really need ten references in the lede for his birth-date?--Раціональне анархіст (talk) 15:27, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

It's a pathetic attempt to try and persuade everyone that the former paramedic/recording producer Steven Gene Leach is a gnarly ancient genuine Hobo. lists his correct dob and sufficient references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:20, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ Op de Beeck, p.160
  2. ^ Op de Beeck, p.159-160
  3. ^ Op de Beeck, p.160