Talk:Sejong the Great

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MEOW The title should be "King X of Joseon". Sejong is no problem with Korea, but collisions would occur at Taejo and Gojong. -- Nanshu 12:28 Feb 26, 2003 (UTC)

In the first place, isn't there convension about naming of rulers? In fact, all of Japanese emperors are named in the format "Emperor (name) of Japan" except some exception like Hirohito even though in the case there is no ambigousness. Shouldn't we simply use convension? -- Taku 16:22 Feb 26, 2003 (UTC)
I don't know. If not, we should make and apply a convention to avoid needless confusion. -- Nanshu 11:53 Feb 27, 2003 (UTC)
I have renamed the article "King Sejong the Great of Joseon" to conform to such a convention. I have tried to set up a model for the convention by posting lists of rulers (see Rulers of Korea). --Sewing 21:04, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Inventing a convention is unnessesary. The hangul script on the monuments to him literally translated read "Sejong great king."

Japanese conventions for naming emperors have nothing to do with how Koreans name kings. It would probably be best to refer to him as Sejong the great (it has worked good for every single Korean I know and I know a lot.)209.193.14.56 08:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

What's wrong with Sejong or King Sejong of Korea? And where's mav when ya need him? --Uncle Ed 21:06, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Let's just say we leave Peter the Great as "Peter the Great" as how we leave King Sejong the Great as "King Sejong the Great". King Sejong is the heart and soul of Korean culture. As a peace loving nation, cultural and technological advancements under him are deeply honored by Koreans instead of kings that wanted conquest after conquest. Hence personally, I don't think it's appropriate to label him just like any other Kings of Korea. Shushinla 03:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't really get what confusion can be produced by labeling him as "King Sejong the Great of Joseon". The convension for naming Japanese rulers has nothing to do with how we name Korean Kings. It is not the question of simplifying the names, but that of history, cultural significance. He is the one who created the written "Korean" language which enables his people to express their own thoughts in written language (and note that until then the written language was the privilege for nobility), who framed the most important cultural policies and who obtained a staggering academic achievement even supported by the very grass-root level at that time. I think this fact shows enough why his title should stay as it is. He is one of the nation's soul-that deserves such title "King Sejong THE GREAT of Joseon" - btw personally I'd like to ask Nanshu what he/she means by "Sejong is no problem with Korea" ; considering Nanshu doesn't seem to be a Korean name, it is somewhat thoughtless to judge other people's cultureHappyshannon 13:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

This article has several grammatical errors, especially in the "Technology" section. It's quite a shame actually... Ajcmksq 20:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I added a verification-needed tag to the un-sourced last paragraph on Hangul. Saying that Sejong was involved but didn't invent Hangul conflicts with the statement at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangul#History that Sejong apparently invented the script alone; since the archives record the Hall of Scholars complaining that he hadn't consulted them. (The Choson archives were uniquely-reliable for ancient times; since the court couldn't read and thus influence the accounts of the current reign, according to the biography below -- I'll try to get the citation.)

I read a similar account at more length in a short biography of Sejong that my son bought at a Seoul museum: Hangul was Sejong's invention, and most of his interaction with his think tank was trying to overcome their Chinese-character-steeped opposition. To be fair, the biography also said that the labor had affected Sejong's health, which might coincide with this paragraph's claim that a scholar found him passed out at his desk from exhaustion. However, the story about Mongol scripts and cave inscriptions I haven't heard anywhere before, and I think it is right to ask for sources -- there is nothing I see, unless it's in the Korean characters my browser doesn't handle. Again, to be fair to the claim, I read that Sejong did send scholars far and wide for projects like the vast medical encyclopedia and astronomical almanac printed during his reign. So while it's conceivable that this paragraph is true, we really need to see at least one credible source. --Howie Goodell 22:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Wtf... the article seems to have shrunk.[edit]

Last time I saw this article on Sejong, there was lot more information on him then now. What happend? Did someone erase them all? Jameslim88 (talk) 02:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Someone with the IP address of 68.5.231.253 seemed to have erased most of the article. I have restored the article. Wookie919 (talk) 23:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 05:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Sejong the Great of JoseonSejong the Great — The "of Joseon" is entirely redundant. He is the only Sejong the Great and that is the name by which he is predominantly known. — Srnec (talk) 21:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
  • Glad to be able to Support. {Name} of {Dynasty} may not be helpful for Korean articles in the first place; WP:NCNT does not apply to Far Eastern monarchs. Even if it did, it would oppose this form, which is utterly unnecessary as Alfred the Great of England would be. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:47, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


Lesbian incident... ??[edit]

That bit is interesting, but does it belong here? Seems bit odd sitting there. Was it a big scandal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.133.70.127 (talk) 06:40, 18 August 2008 (UTC) It was a big incident before.. at it really happened — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.151.7.79 (talk) 12:46, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

This section, an excerpt from the referenced link, is presented here without its context and does not fit with the rest of the article. I propose its removal.

Since no objection is registered for more than a week, I'm deleting the section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.129.63.232 (talk) 03:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Birth name[edit]

It says:

Birth name
Hangul 이도
Hanja 李裪
Revised Romanization I Do
McCune–Reischauer I To

That's the spelling according to modern South Korean dialect. But back when he lived, it was slightly different:

Birth name
Hangul 리도
Hanja 李裪
Revised Romanization Ri Do
McCune–Reischauer Ri To

Additionally, that spelling is still in use in North Korea. Shouldn't we use that spelling on this page instead? (212.247.11.156 (talk) 00:14, 29 December 2008 (UTC))

No one uses NK spelling except in NK and by North Koreans in Japan. Korean all around the world uses the South Korean standard spelling which is phonetically more accurate.Melonbarmonster2 (talk) 22:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, actually 리도 is the "correct" way to read it.... in 15c Josun. At that time, 이 was written as 리, which is why NK likes to keep the ㄹ: its more traditionally accurate. -175.196.124.82 (talk) 11:00, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


Date of Birth[edit]

According to this site http://www.koreanhero.net/kingsejong/index.html# King Sejong the Great was born on the 15th of May 1397. I would like to know which is correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.119 (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Good question. The Wiki article also contradicts itself on Sejong's age at death. The sidebar says he died at 53 while the main body of the article says he died aged 54.Muzilon (talk) 02:44, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

10k won[edit]

Sejong's appearance on the won bills released in 2007 might be worth mentioning:

rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 16:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Korean calendar[edit]

Was King Sejong's new calendar based on the latitude Seoul, or on its longitude? The latter seems more plausible astronomically, as it would directly affect hours and sometimes dates, and is implied by the mention of the Seoul meridian in the Korean calendar article. Pending a definite resolution, I have changed latitude to longitude in the article.CharlesHBennett (talk) 09:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

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