Talk:Sentence spacing in language and style guides

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  • Expand : some more style guides in List of style guides that could be added. Some, such as the WHO and the UN's style guide don't discuss sentence spacing that I could see though.

Split attribution[edit]

Title[edit]

The title may not be the best choice. I thought it more concise than List of style guide: Guidance on sentence spacing. Perhaps there is a better choice. Airborne84 (talk) 16:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

What about List of sentence spacing style guides? --JorisvS (talk) 16:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Or better yet, Sentence spacing style guides, as the article is not, in fact, a list. --JorisvS (talk) 22:08, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Seems OK. I was trying to determine if "list" was appropriate. This list encompasses (or ideally should encompass) language guides also. Maybe Sentence spacing: Style guides is enough, but a more descriptive title would be Sentence spacing: Style and language guides. I don't know if that's too much.
I'd like to hold with the current title for a couple of days. I realized that when people type in "List of style guides" into the Wikipedia search bar, this one appears below it. I don't know how many people type in the words "List of style guides" for a search, but it's something worth considering - even if in passing. Airborne84 (talk) 02:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, if you've no issue with the article's notability (and other elements that make an appropriate Wikipedia article), feel free to remove the tag on the main page. I won't take it off, so someone else will need to. Airborne84 (talk) 02:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Will they no longer see this article in searches if leave this page a redirect? (I don't know for certain.) Also, just a handful of people a day visit that page, see its page view statistic, so even fewer people must search for the title.
Reading WP:N I can't see a reason why this wouldn't merit its own article (the subject need not be the main topic of the sources), so I'll remove the tag in a minute. --JorisvS (talk) 08:22, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. That was the big thing I was wondering - if the subject needed a secondary source to identify it specifically. I think it's as relevant and notbale article at Wikipedia as many others though—even if it is a niche area. Good point about the redirect. I don't know. It really doesn't matter. If this doesn't meet the qualifications of a list, it shouldn't be called "List of...", regardless of search aids. Airborne84 (talk) 13:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

U.S. Navy Style Guide[edit]

I deleted the U.S. Navy Style Guide sentence. The sentence was improperly worded, since there are a variety of manuals in the U.S. Department of Defense, some of which have conflicting information. I considered adding them all in the article, but I'm not sure that adding a lot of U.S. military style guides is appropriate. The article now doesn't really conform to WP:WORLDVIEW, and if this section is expanded, it would suggest that there needs to be a section on U.K. military/government style guides, Canadian, Australian, and even other countries such as India that use English as one of their official languages. But I don't like deleting material either. I also considered that perhaps a "Sentence spacing in U.S. Government style guides" article could be split out. These could cover not only the Department of Defense, but other government agencies, such as the State Department, USAID, etc. That wouldn't be appropriate in this article, but might be useful—as an encyclopedia reference—to some nonetheless. Thoughts? --Airborne84 (talk) 10:05, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

SBL Handbook of Style[edit]

The following was posted from Talk:Sentence spacing#SBL Handbook of Style. --Airborne84 (talk) 00:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm quoting from the SBL Handbook of Style.  The current edition of SBL Handbook of Style (1999), 2006 reprint ISBN 9781565634879, notes on page 1, "we have consulted various of these standard manuals...and also the now somewhat dated Chicago Guide to Preparing Electronic Manuscripts."
RB

If you'd like to include the SBL Handbook itself, I'd recommend that it go in the main article, Sentence spacing in language and style guides, as that is more of an encyclopedia collection of style guides; the section here is only a summary of that one. Key information also would be:
1. Guidelines from the 2006 SBL Handbook on sentence spacing (if any).
2. Whether the 2006 SBL Handbook is itself single or double sentence spaced.
3. What other style guides and references the SBL Handbook refers to besides a guide that it itself notes is "somewhat dated".
Depending on the above information, the main article venue offers more leeway in detailing the nuances. Feel free to add it if you think that it is worthwhile.

--Airborne84 (talk) 18:26, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

RB  66.217.118.58 (talk) 22:08, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

In case an editor wants that data, here it is:

APA Style cite:
Alexander, P. H., & Society of Biblical Literature. (1999). The SBL handbook of style: For ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and early Christian studies. Peabody, Mass: Hendrickson Publishers.

In addition to the Chicago Guide they use CMA 14th edition and the "Instructions for Contributors" in the Journal of Biblical Literature 117 (1998): 555-79.

p. 7

3.1.1.10 Spaces after Punctuation

Only one space is needed after any punctuation that ends a sentence and also after a colon.

As to point 2, that would be WP:OR, and also, not all spacing is single or double.
RB  66.217.118.58 (talk) 22:58, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Correction to "historical style guide" information[edit]

In the intro: "Historical style guides before the 19th century typically indicated that single, but slightly wider, spaces were to be used between sentences."

Then, a reference is given to the Chicago Manual from **1911**, which calls for large (em-quad) spaces. This is hardly from "before the 19th century." Since style guides called for larger spaces into the 1940s (and in some cases into the 1960s), I am altering the sentence to accord with the reference actually given, changing it to "Historical style guides before the mid-20th century..."76.119.236.172 (talk) 16:35, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

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