Talk:Series of tubes

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Former good article nomineeSeries of tubes was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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One of the best analogies for how the internet really works[edit]

Steven's description of the internet as a series of tubes sounds a lot like what happens as routers put packets in queues while buffering. There's got to be some reputable source out there that makes this point. It's too obvious to those of use that have actually worked on network hardware. I seem to remember this article making such a reference long ago but I can't find it now. Any help out there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:36, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

I get your point, but to counter that, he calls e-mail "an internet" so it's not at all clear he's speaking of it as an analogy. Interwebs (talk) 14:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
He probably got the analogy from someone trying to explain what happens when packets are stuck in buffers and delayed. Seeing a queue as a tube full of packets (or "internets") helps convey the idea that congested links will delay packets by buffering them in memory. Having prioritization allows some packets to move to the head of the "tube", a small VOIP packet, or a small packet from a player in a multiplayer game, would greatly reduce latency while doing little to affect a streaming movie service that can handle potentially seconds of latency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:55, 2019 January 24 (UTC)

(→‎One of the best analogies for how the internet really works)

  • Was Stevens old enough to have learned his electronics prior to the invention of the transistor? Prior to the use of first transistors, and then integrated circuits, computers, relays, indeed all electronics, did use tubes. They used vacuum tubes. The Eniac used vacuum tubes, and there are accounts of grad students, on bicycles, riding around replacing tubes that burned out.
  • Stevens had a bad reputation, for other reasons, but his comments makes a lot more sense if commentators were generous enough to assume that an old man said "tubes" when he meant "transistors". If there are RS that make this point, we should cite them. Geo Swan (talk) 19:54, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
It's clear given the context, which is packet prioritization, that "tubes" probably refers to queues in routers used to buffer packets when links are congested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 20:55, 2019 January 24 (UTC)
The article states "Edward Felten, Princeton University professor of computer science, pointed out the unfairness of some criticisms of Stevens' wording." But the article stops there. I think it'd be worth expanding on this in the article. As it stands, the article has a strong pop-culture bias to it; it's all about the punchline, but excludes any analysis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:25, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

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