Talk:Shame (Robbie Williams and Gary Barlow song)

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Good articleShame (Robbie Williams and Gary Barlow song) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 2, 2016Good article nomineeListed

Intro.[edit]

Is the intro a sample of Blackbird? It sounds very simillar and even has the clicks that feature in said music. Also, is it not odd that an article on a single doesn't really mention much about the music at all?(Morcus (talk) 17:08, 15 October 2010 (UTC))[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Reviewer: Carbrera (talk · contribs) 02:16, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I am Carbrera, and I'll be reviewing this article for possible good article submission.

Full review coming very soon. Carbrera (talk) 02:16, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

  • The single cover image needs an alt
  • Redo the "recorded" section so it makes more sense; use Asking 4 It as an example please
    • With all due respect, that's a choice. I prefer how it is in "Shame".
      • Oh, I see. I was looking at this part exclusively through editing mode, so I overall assumed it would be a bulleted list. Yeah, this way's fine
  • Remove the "certification" section since its empty

Lead[edit]

Paragraph 1[edit]

  • Remove the link to "lead single" per WP:OVERLINKING

Paragraph 2[edit]

  • Remove the hidden linking of "|single charts"; it's unnecessary

Development and release[edit]

Paragraph 1[edit]

  • The description for the image is a bit confusing to me; could you reword it?
  • "that he is..." → "that he was..."
  • Remove "; Williams didn't join them at the beginning."

Paragraph 2[edit]

  • "William's" → "Williams'"
    • The article is written in British English and Britons use ex. Williams's over Williams', but it's fixed now :)
  • The second sentence uses a a lot of commas; could you reword this sentence as well?
    • I tried my best here.

Paragraph 3[edit]

  • Insert a comma after "some countries"
  • "apart of the title track,..." → "apart from the title track,..."

Composition and lyrical interpretation[edit]

  • I would change the section title to "Composition and lyrics"
    • According to me it should be either 'Composition and lyrical interpretation' or 'Music and lyrics'; I usually prefer the first one
  • The rest of this section is fantastic
    • Thank you!

Critical reception[edit]

Paragraph 1[edit]

  • You could add a link to contemporary music critics here
  • Are there more reviews you could add to this section; it would benefit the article greatly?
    • Unfortunately I couldn't find more :/

Chart performance[edit]

Paragraph 1[edit]

  • Add a topic sentence discussing the track's commercial performance/reception please
    • I think we should leave the people to judge it, because everybody has diff perception of it honestly
  • Other than that, also good work

Music video[edit]

Paragraph 1[edit]

  • Can you add dates on when the video was shot? If applicable of course...
    • Done.
  • Instead of the photo of the two actors, would one of the actual video be more beneficial?
    • I did have, but there isn't a clear scene that we can use honestly, so the photo got removed and I added pics of the actors
  • The synopsis is good, but a bit long? Do you think it should be shortened a bit?
    • Tried to cut it a bit, I think it's fine now, no?

Live performances[edit]

  • You use "Shame" a lot; remember, you can also use "the track", "the single", "the song", etc....
    • Done. Used only twice now.

End of GA Review:[edit]

A very strong article. Please look at my suggestions, consider them, and message me when you'd like me to take another look at it. Thanks. Carbrera (talk) 23:25, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Carbrera Thanks for your review. All the queries are done now, the ones which are not, you have a response regarding them. ;) — Tom(T2ME) 09:56, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Tomica I'll pass it now. Thanks for your work on this article! Carbrera (talk) 14:02, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]