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Main eventing v closing[edit]

Shawn has closed Wrestlemania twice? At 12 and 14. He has main evented at 5 WMs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.109.10.6 (talk) 10:08, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Wrestlemania 26[edit]

Anybody got any sources proving that Shawn retires? During the March 29th broadcast of RAW, Shaun formally announced his retirement from the WWE. 66.108.211.178 (talk) 20:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

There is apparently a radio interview with Shawn saying he is retiring somewhere but I imagine that is just hype to make people buy the show. We won't know for sure until the match has finished Tezzrexx (talk) 14:35, 28 March 2010 (UTC) On the January 2, 2017 episode of Raw, it was announced that Michaels would appear on the January 9 episode of Raw. Not retired, taking time off. It was reported back in January he was taking time off from after Mania til around Mid-End of Summer. 91.105.9.60 (talk) 05:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Guys, don't even do something like this. He is retired for good, he said it on RAW the night after WrestleMania. I was sad to cause I never could have thought he would have thought he would retire, but I just can't go through that again, if he came back and left like that again I don't think I could watch WWE again.--Nascarking (talk) 03:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

There's a video on Youtube, an interview of Triple H in which he says "there's guys like Shawn Michaels who say I've had a hell of a run and I want to go out on a high note". That does mean Shawn's retired, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shreek314 (talkcontribs) 15:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

Post Wrestlemania(Topic) Shawn Michaels has thoughts on making a reality show about his life and family after his wrestling career —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.6.133.255 (talk) 02:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

{{editsemiprotected}} Shawn Michaels was defeated by the Undertaker at Wrestlemania 26 in a streak versus retirement match, forcing Shawn to retire from professional wrestling. ON March 28, 2010

source www.wwe.com

Tkeiffer (talk) 02:56, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

wow shawn .that was hell of of a match we love you all the the best. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.229.27.173 (talk) 03:10, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

This is not a request to edit the article. As it says on the template, we need a specific request for a change, with a specific reference supporting it. You have provided neither. Hersfold (t/a/c) 03:39, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

If anybody thinks that Shawn Michaels is retiring is a complete mark. The whole "retirement" stipulation is a work. If you've watched wrestling long enough you are smart enough to know that. There is no proof that he is indeed retiring. Shawn Michaels is NOT retiring and anybody who is stupid enough to believe something that is a work is a complete moron.

Tkeiffer (talk) 04:51, 29 March 2010 (UTC)Shawn has been have his back flare up on him for the past year and has been talking of retiring from active wrestling for a couple of years. There are rumors that he will be put in a training position, or possibly even an announcing position after he takes time off to be with his family.

He hasn't retired, its just a way of writing him out of storylines and the company, Although Michaels has set a retirement date, WrestleMania 26 wasn't it, people who believe he has retired believe kayfabe too much. 91.105.9.60 (talk) 05:05, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Tkeiffer (talk) 05:11, 29 March 2010 (UTC)who ever you are, since you will not sign your name. I believe no kayfabe at all, ever since I was in wrestling school under Allen Sarven, I have known about the inner workings of "the Fed". Tkeiffer (talk) 05:16, 29 March 2010 (UTC)BTW, retiring from active wrestling doesn't mean he will never work another match, it just means he will not be an active member of the roster, giving him ample opportunity to spend time with his young children and to focus on his faith, which he feels is not really compatible with WWE's life on the road. If a year or two down the road he decides to come back into active wrestling, it will be no different from the last time he retired. He has no plans to be an active wrestler in the near future. Tkeiffer (talk) 05:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_40194.shtml

Taker doesn't leave character, hug another wrestler, and potentially ruin his gimmick for storyline purposes. He was really caught up in the moment because he has a lot of respect for his fellow legend that he has carried the WWE with for the past 2 decades. He would only do something like that for HBK. I've NEVER seen him do that on live national television before. HBK was also seen crying and spent about 20 minutes telling the fans goodbye. It's over and I am sitting here in tears that some fans are busy questioning all this instead of thanking HBK for a memorable, storied career and many great moments he gave us all. Also, sign your posts. 65.31.103.28 (talk) 05:33, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Taker did the same thing for Ric Flair, on Flair's "farewell" Raw, though not until after Raw went off the air, to preserve kafaybe. (Vince did as well) TyVulpine (talk) 03:33, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Not to mention that 'taker didn't hug Shawn. He tipped his hat to Shawn and left. Undertaker did hug Flair, though, when Flair left "active wrestling," and it seems that Flair is over on TNA, more or less actively wrestling, which defeats that point totally. 68.192.215.104 (talk) 03:29, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} Shawn michaels' career is over

117.193.141.221 (talk) 08:21, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Requests to edit semi-protected articles must be accompanied by reference(s) to reliable sources.  Chzz  ►  08:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Not done your a mark if u believe michaels is not retiring. theres several things on web that prove that he has indeed done just that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.58.50.108 (talk) 17:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 97.97.63.62, 30 March 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}}


During the March 29th edition of RAW. Shaun formally announced his retirement.

Until we have a source for this, there is not a need to change the article. Please let us know when you have a good source, and will will make the change.
Not done Avicennasis @ 04:43, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I would think that by watching that epsiode would count as the first/best source on that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.147.235 (talk) 22:57, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

HBK's Picture is disturbing[edit]

He looks like Chris Benoit, can we have a picture change please?--Dr. Pizza (talk) 22:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but to which of the 14 images in HBK's article are you referring? I personally don't see a resemblance to Chris Benoit in any of them, and I don't really consider that to be a good reason to change an image anyway. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 12:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Grammar on a caption[edit]

It's been a long time since I've been in school, let alone an English class. The image of Shawn Michaels hugging Bret Hart reads this: "Michaels reconsiliates with Bret Hart in January 2010." Shouldn't it say reconciles? Again, I've been out of school a looooong time so I might be wrong. The caption just doesn't seem right. Kjscotte34 (talk) 13:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I believe it could be "reconciles" or "reconciliates". The article certainly has it spelt wrong, but I don't know if it's grammatically wrong. I think "Michaels reconciles with Bret Hart in January 2010" sounds better though, so I'm going to be bold and change it. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 13:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Hall of Fame[edit]

Apologize,misread. Ignore this plz.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.147.235 (talk) 23:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Where exactly in the article are you seeing it said that he was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame? I don't see it myself. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 23:26, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Not a problem. ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 01:21, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 86.12.167.6, 8 April 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} Hey, please can u remove the 'Sean Michaels'

86.12.167.6 (talk) 12:47, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

  •  Done- It was mal-sourced and definitely untrue information. Feedback 12:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit Nicknames[edit]

Please add the "Boy Toy" to his list of niknames. IOt was one of his nicknames back on the 1993-1994 perion, when Sherri was still his valet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.41.119 (talk) 13:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Not done, all content must be verifiable via a reliable source, I've done a quick search for this, and cannot find any source that suggest that Michaels ever had the nickname "IOt" or "Boy Toy". If you find a source, please resubmit the request, clearing stating the source in the request. Regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 13:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


I believe "IOt" was a typo.66.108.211.43 (talk) 22:47, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Change to introduction necessary[edit]

In the second line of the introduction, the statement "He was considered as one of WWE's senior performers..." is tautological and misleading. He was not "considered" one of the senior performers, he WAS one of the senior performers. It is self evident, based on his 22 years of tenure with the company. A far more appropriate and coherent statement would be "During his tenure with the WWE, Michaels was considered one of WWE's greatest and most perennial performers..." For such a high profile sport-entertainer/athlete, an immediate change needs to be implemented.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.173.12 (talk) 16:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Saying "Michaels was considered one of WWE's greatest and most perennial performers" is POV. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Reason for retirement[edit]

Does anyone have any sources as to why he decided to quit wresting and retire for good? Personal Life reasons not WWE storylined. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ToonIsALoon (talkcontribs) 10:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

He needed a break. His back was giving him a terrible time, and under medical advice, he was looking at taking an extended break. In WWE that means retire. Comebacks are always possible. The story we heard (related to a RL friend of rebecca) was professionals (not wrestling/gimmick doctors) told him take a break and rebuild your back, or suffer with it a few years and maybe do permanent damage that no surgery/rest will fix. TNA/Carter contacted him when it became obvious in wwe programming he was taking time out about appearing there. It was an adamant 'no' as it is a genuine rest or regret it issue.121.216.99.172 (talk) 15:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I heard no reports about Shawn's back giving him trouble. After surgery in 1999 to repair his back, doctors told him he would never wrestle again. However, Around 2000 Shawn considered a ring return and actually did wrestle one match in his own federation (the twa), to see how his back responded. He was fine, and eventually decided to return to the ring in 2001, but due to drug problems, it never happened. All reports from the last few years say that Shawn's back is fine, but only the worst of the damage was repaired. He said as of 2007, that he still has some screws to remove, and 2 more discs that will need fusing down the road, but it was not an immediate need. It is widely assumed that when Shawn has the final 2 discs fused, that he could not legitimatley wrestle anymore. He always looked at doing that when he was an older man, in his 50's.

Michaels knees were in worse shape than his back, and it is for that reason, that he looked at taking a long break, eventually deciding to retire. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.211.139.239 (talk) 14:18, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Change in introduction, giving more credit[edit]

There is a line that I would like to add in the introduction page: 'He is widely considered one of the greatest wrestlers of all time.' after the line 'having performed for over 20 years,'. I feel the page doesn't give enough credit to Shawn and his great influence in the world of sports entertainment. Bret Hart & Ric Flair's pages have similar lines, declaring them as either legendary or great. I feel Shawn deserves the exact same thing, and here is proof/reference by Shawn's peers & his boss (Vince McMahon) in Shawn's DVD 'Heartbreak & Triumph'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M86R5J12VtM

I've never edited/added info to a page, so I'd be grateful if someone did it or shows me how to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amreletr (talkcontribs) 13:50, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Adding that he is widely considered "one of the greatest wrestlers of all time" is point-of-view and original research, thus not acceptable as this is an encyclopedia, not a fansite. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:16, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree if that was my own personal POV only. However, I did bring a reference showing his peers stating that he's the best they've ever wrestled. It would be unfair to add that line to other pages such as Ric Flair's or Bret Hart's and not add it to Shawn Michaels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric_flair http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Hart

Like I said, it's not only my personal POV, and if it is not a fansite, then why do other wrestlers such as the ones mentioned above have a 'POV' line in their pages. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amreletr (talkcontribs) 10:33, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 66.156.98.97, 12 July 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} there should be 1 more nickname added since people have debated this for years " 1 of the greatest wrestlers of all time"

66.156.98.97 (talk) 07:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) 10:53, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
He was never known as that, and never referred to himself as that. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

return to wwe?[edit]

he didnt return it was one night only —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.100.146.210 (talk) 20:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request March 1st 2011[edit]

And I quote:"On the March 28 episode of Raw, Michaels addressed his long time friend Triple H and The Undertaker about their match at WrestleMania XXVII" I think it was the February 28 episode of Raw as March 28 is still ahead of us.

Thanks for catching that. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Viknesann, 15 March 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} The WWE ranked him at # 1 in their list of "Top 50 Superstars of all Time"


Viknesann (talk) 14:16, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

How is that important in the article? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 14:56, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. It would be relevant if we had a source. Viknesann, if you have a reliable source which verifies this claim, it can be added with a citation to the article. If you do, please make a new edit request with that reference. Thanks. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:52, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


Edit request from Belowcopy, 29 May 2011[edit]

Take off that bit about "Sports entertainment" dude if not, then go insert it into every wrestlers bio. Everybody knows what pro wrestling is it dosen't need to be defined as "a form of sports entertainment"


PWI of the Decade Awards[edit]

I thought I read this in a PWI Magazine that Michaels won, Most Inspirational, Feud (with Chris Jericho) and Match of the Decade (WrestleMania XXIV against Ric Flair) of the Decade Award from PWI? Can anyone verify it? 202.161.9.176 (talk) 12:09, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

removed ring name[edit]

Why was my changes to shawns ring names and billed from sections removed Shawn competed as Shawn Michael and was billed from Georgia throughout his career in WCCW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.102.61.101 (talk) 23:35, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Sources please. NiciVampireHeart 23:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjfOdMBB934 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.102.61.101 (talk) 13:21, 15 April 2011 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-dZ3Ngp2ZI in this he is billed as shawn micheal but uses san antonio as where he is billed from —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.102.61.101 (talk) 13:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Please see WP:LINKVIO. We cannot link to known copyright violations. Neither of those youtube uploaders owns the copyright to that footage, so it's a copyright violation. NiciVampireHeart 18:54, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Is Shawn Michaels the first WWF and European champion?[edit]

Its has to be certain in this article. AnthonyTheGamer (talk) 10:32, 20 August 2011 (UTC) Anthonythegamer

Lazy Eye?[edit]

Is it me or during the last couple of years of his in-ring stint did Shawn develop a lazy eye? Looking back over time both eyes seeem normal, but recently they seem to be odd. Can anyone confirm? TheHeartbreakKid15 (talk) 01:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Years of being piledriven, chair-shotted, suplexed and whatever else eventually caused a turn in his left eye. He had to get surgery for it and was written of television, the reason being that Jericho had allegedly injured Michaels' eye during a ruckus. It once looked a HELL of a lot worse than it does now.

edit request - commissioner photo caption[edit]

The photo of Shawn as commissioner in 1998 is wrong. You can see the modern Raw set and logos in the background, its from the last couple of years, not 1998. A new picture or a different caption is required. Thanks! - perrynormal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perrynormal (talkcontribs) 18:06, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Wrong Twitter name[edit]

It's @ShawnMichaels now, verified --208.38.59.162 (talk) 22:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

"American people of English descent"[edit]

Either provide a source for this category or remove it. Just because he spent a very brief part of his childhood in England doesn't mean he is of English descent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.0.170 (talk) 15:40, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

"Hickenbottom" is an English surname. He comes from family that has a long history in the American south, it's not inconceivable that he comes from mostly English stock. The American south is dominated by English/Scottish/Scotch-Irish(Who are English/Scottish themselves) descended people -- but the largest component is the English. Fact.

You need to stop the Anglo-phobia, and go read a book on American history. One that hasn't been rewritten by the revisionists!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.174.68.21 (talk) 01:15, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Stables[edit]

He was also a member of nWo in 2002. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawn_michaels#cite_note-76 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.21.135.223 (talk) 21:03, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Sexuality[edit]

Can we not address the allegations that have been made of his either gay or bi-sexual relationship with Vince McMahon amongst others? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.110.21.134 (talk) 21:32, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Drug use[edit]

I saw in a video with Scott Hall that Michaels was actually a bad drug addict and abused pain killers. --Matt723star (talk) 04:28, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Why was the page moved?[edit]

I'm assuming good faith, but this was done improperly. WP:COMMONNAME clearly applies here. Mr. Hickenbottom is better known as Shawn Michaels. Kjscotte34 (talk) 16:19, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2014[edit]

DylanTheRookie (talk) 18:58, 27 January 2014 (UTC) Shawn Micheals Since Retirement, Likes to Hunt, Fish, And Hang Out With his Family On His Ranch.

Not done Thanks for you interest, but the content you submitted is not in spirit of the encyclopaedia. EthicallyYours! 16:10, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request - Feb 2, 2014[edit]

Michaels made a return at the 2014 Royal Rumble, as a member of the guest panel as a face. Later during the event, he said that he still had faith in Daniel Bryan becoming the future WWE World Heavyweight Champion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.242.59 (talk) 11:37, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Sunny and Stephanie Mcmahon[edit]

A have a question about Shawn Michaels but I did not find the answer of that:

Shawn Michaels has kissed Sunny and Stephanie Mcmahon!

Is that sentence right? If that sentence is correct please introduction a reference about they. thanks WWE Shawn Michaels (talk) 10:45, 7 June 2014 (UTC)


Edit Request - July 17, 2014[edit]

All of my changes involve this paragraph, I've included it for easier reference:

"In the WWF/WWE, Michaels headlined major pay-per-view events from 1989 to 2010, main-eventing the company's premier annual event, WrestleMania, five times. He was a key player in the highly successful stable, Degeneration X. He also wrestled in the American Wrestling Association (AWA), where he founded The Midnight Rockers with Marty Jannetty in 1985. After winning the AWA Tag Team Championship twice, the team continued through to the WWF, and had a high-profile breakup in January 1992."

Shouldn't it be something more like the following?

"Michaels first wrestled in the American Wrestling Association (AWA), where he founded The Midnight Rockers with Marty Jannetty in 1985. After winning the AWA Tag Team Championship twice, the team continued through to the WWF, and had a high-profile breakup in January 1992. In the WWF/WWE, he headlined major pay-per-view events from 1989 to 2010, main-eventing the company's premier annual event, WrestleMania, five times. He was also a key player in the highly successful stable, Degeneration X.

I think it looks better if the different wrestling organizations are put in chronological order. It is obvious that his time in WWF/WWE is far more important, so that might be a better topic sentence, but I think the jumping around chronologically seems silly. Giovnni (talk) 22:35, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2015[edit]

In "The Rockers" section, the "Butus Beefcake" is spelled wrong. 5.14.160.163 (talk) 18:51, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 19:56, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Edit Request: Match Of The Year Linked Incorrectly[edit]

Under Championships & Achievments > WWF/WWE > Slammy Awards > Four-time Match of the Year, it lists his match with Ric Flair as having occured at Wrestlemania XXIII, which is the show he headlined with John Cena. He worked and retired Ric Flair at Wrestlemania XXIV.

Semi-protected Edit Request 12/22/15[edit]

  • The part under the subtitle "WWE ambassador" where it talks about the legend panel, did not happen on August 25, 2014. It took place on January 19, 2015. Proof:

http://www.wwe.com/videos/hulk-hogan-ric-flair-and-shawn-michaels-participate-in-a-royal-rumble-wwe-legend-27027632

sportzwiki.com/wwe/wwe-raw-19115-royal-rumble-legends-panel-with-hulk-hogan-ric-flair-and-shawn-michaels

A suggestion[edit]

I think there should be a section on Shawn Michaels' page regarding his legacy in pro wrestling, seeing as he is frequently cited as one of the best ever. I won't be able to pull it off, but I know there are experienced editors on this site who can create a well-written, descriptive piece on the matter. Betlewetly (talk) 13:12, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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