Talk:Shooting of Trayvon Martin

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"Neighborhood Watch Coordinator"[edit]

Wikipedia's "Neighborhood Watch" page:

"A neighborhood watch or neighbourhood watch (see spelling differences), also called a crime watch or neighbourhood crime watch, is an organized group of civilians devoted to crime and vandalism prevention within a neighborhood. In other words, neighborhood watch is a crime prevention scheme under which civilians agree together to keep an eye on one another's properties, patrol the street, and report suspicious incidents to law enforcement."

Has there at any point ever been any indication that Zimmerman was part of a group? I don't recall ever seeing even mention of other group members who "would prefer to remain anonymous".

If there were no other members of a group, then he was not a coordinator. "Neighborhood watch coordinator" is a more favorable frame than "vigilante", but repeating a fiction infinitely does not make it fact. I think the term should be removed.

Alienkind (talk) 17:38, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Or possibly changed from "coordinator" to volunteer". The NYT article used as reference:

"SANFORD, Fla. — Last August, Wendy Dorival got a call about setting up a local neighborhood watch. As the volunteer coordinator for the Police Department here, she gets such calls regularly, and the city already had at least 10 active watch groups. So she thought nothing of this call, from George Zimmerman.

She set up a visit for the next month at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, a gated community that had been dealing with a string of burglaries. When 25 residents showed up, a decent turnout, she had the residents introduce themselves; after all, people join the groups to look out for each other. She then gave a PowerPoint presentation and distributed a handbook. As she always does, she emphasized what a neighborhood watch is — and what it is not.

In every presentation, “I go through what the rules and responsibilities are,” she said Thursday. The volunteers’ role, she said, is “being the eyes and ears” for the police, “not the vigilante.” Members of a neighborhood watch “are not supposed to confront anyone,” she said. “We get paid to get into harm’s way. You don’t do that. You just call them from the safety of your home or your vehicle.”

Using a gun in the neighborhood watch role would be out of the question, she said in an interview.

Mr. Zimmerman was there, she recalled, and the local group appointed him their coordinator. But on Feb. 26, Mr. Zimmerman, 28, pursued, confronted and fatally shot Trayvon Martin, 17, an unarmed black high school student who had been carrying only an iced tea and a bag of Skittles."

In summary, one meeting six months prior. During which, the actual coordinator employed by the police explicitly indicated a neighborhood watch program is not to carry a weapon or confront anyone.

Zimmerman's interaction with Martin was not part of any neighborhood watch program. It is misleading to suggest that it was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alienkind (talkcontribs) 21:03, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

See WP:SYN. VQuakr (talk) 03:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

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