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Spam[edit]

Dossier about Sierra Leone from Freedomhouse.org seems to be a spam. Isn't it? Dr Bug  (Volodymyr V. Medeiko) 16:14, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I don't think so. It looks legit to me. What makes you think it is spam? --Ben 16:38, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
The phrase "Although there has been a significant amount of news coverage of the war in Sierra Leone" to me seems a little strange. I personally don't remember what I would consider a "significant amount of news coverage" regarding the civil war in Sierra Leone. There were reporters there but western media did not really pick up the stories. Maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough though. --Ben 16:34, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Districts[edit]

I have a made a page with the Districts of Sierra Leone and explained how the final 12 parliamentary seats are filled. Admittedly, I just obtained this information and am a bit confused on whether the Western Area is considered an administrative district or not. Most sites say Sierra Leone has 12 districts, but the Western Area would be 13. Can anyone clarify? - Gantry 03:53, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The administration of the Western Area (which is essentially the city of Freetown) is seperate from that of the 3 provinces. Government systems for the Western Area are different and I think some property laws are different.Nick.annejohn 21:59, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


The square km figures given for the western rural district and the western urban district appear too high by an order of magnitude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.55.230 (talk) 04:43, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleting the literature and film section[edit]

If no-one has any objections I will remove the literature and film section in a few days as it is really just a list of trivial facts. 124.171.186.168 (talk) 15:27, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, some of us do object. Why would you want to delete the section? It could use a few more cited sources to be sure but that is a reason to improve not delete. Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 16:10, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
For the same reasons as why the Borat movie isn't discussed in the Kazakstan article. The whole section is embarrassing. 203.56.233.122 (talk) 04:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, I don't think embarrassment is an acceptable reason to delete sourced sections of an encyclopedia article. The Borat film would certainly merit a mention in the Kazakhstan article (there was quite a stink raised by the Kazakh president when he met with President Bush) but we already cover the film in Media of Kazakhstan. What part of the section embarrasses you? L0b0t (talk) 03:14, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
I've logged in so you know who you're talking to. Appropriate content for the lit. and film section would be examples of notable Sierra Leonean authors, playwrights, etc. It shouldn't contain lists of Hollywood movies about Sierra Leone. I can't see any other way to improve the article other than to delete the entire section. ExitRight (talk) 02:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Denial of Visas to athletes[edit]

I recently read an article on yahoo that talked about several nations refusing to give athletes from SL permission to come to their countries and participate in events. Found it interesting and think it would go great under the header in the sports section which currently says nothing. not sure where they sourced it from if someone wants to help out (the article is from reuters). we can talk about it here. it'd also be interesting to know how this affects events like the olympics or world cup Curtbash (talk) 05:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Etymology of the name[edit]

The name Sierra Leone was adapted from the Spanish version: Sierra León, and in turn, from the Portuguese Serra-Leão, which stands for "lioness mountains."

"Leão" means lion, and not lioness, in Portuguese. Lioness is "leoa" and, in fact, the modern name of the country in Portuguese is "Serra Leoa". The article History of Sierra Leone states that

Portuguese explorer Pedro da Cintra mapped the hills surrounding what is now Freetown Harbour, naming the oddly shaped formation Serra Lyoa (Lion Mountains)

"Lyoa" could well be an archaic version of "leoa", but probably not of "leão". So, it seems to me that one article contradicts the other (on the original name in Portuguese -- if they are both in fact referring to the original name; maybe Lyoa was the original name and then later it changed to Leão) and are both contradictory within themselves, as one translates Lyoa as lion, and the other Leão as lioness.

Does anyone have information to clarify this? --Cotoco 10:22, 28 August 2005 (UTC)


This article must be reviewed. In Portuguese it is "Serra Leoa" and in Spanish it is "Sierra Leona", both meaning "Lioness Mountains" and not "Lion Mountains". The name was originally in Portuguese, and not in Spanish, as the text suggests. Could we correct it as soon as possible? Tonyjeff 17:19, 14 November 2005 (UTC)


I think this is arguable. It could be that the word leoa was used as an adjective, and thus needed to agree with serra, which is feminine. The basic idea seems to have been that the mountain range was shaped like a lion, which I suppose works just as well for a male as it does for a female. FilipeS 21:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

External links[edit]

Suggest that the external link to Vanessa Without Borders be removed. Wikipedia is generally known for its objectivity in its articles. This link to a personal blog appears to have been inserted by one of the article's earlier editors and, quite frankly, comes across as self-indulgence. The link could be included in a biographical article on the individual herself or possibly an article on the particular NGO she is working with, but not an article on an entire country. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.73.96.170 (talkcontribs) 22:54, 13 November 2006.


Why is there poverty? Because the wage system is a slave system, & USA forces it on the world! Once we can see the wage causes world poverty, we should end it! Millions of people are suffering so much, & every year 11 million children die of starvation related illnesses. We must end the wage to create a vortex that would "force" all nations to end their wage systems & say all people must OWN all things to end world poverty! Ending the wage will make the world almost perfect immediately. Let's just do it. Sundiiiaaa 03:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

How could anyone do that to another human being! That's just so horrible! **about the Blood Diamond conflict(s)** (Is the U.S. a big consumer of *blood* diamonds??

164.116.126.140 18:49, 8 March 2007 (UTC)Researcher007

Has anyone validated the information presented by the author of the Sierra Leone article? I suspect not. I sincerely hope nobody relies upon the information as fact.

introduction should be re-evaluated and possibly re-written[edit]

The current introduction gives the impression that the country is known only for being a colony. There should be a more comprehensive introduction, like in some other country articles. Congolese 04:19, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

"It was recently nominated by the United Nations to be the worst country to live in ever."[edit]

Even though the statement is sourced, it is a long stretch to call it the worst country to live in EVER, don't you think?! I don't want to edit it as I am not a registrered member, I just thought I should point it out. 130.226.7.3 (talk) 20:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

It now says the worst country to live in in history which is simply wrong. The HDI indicates how Humand Development was ranked in all those countries in the year 2005. It's not a historic kind of measurement. I removed the words 'in history' from the article. 213.132.129.27 (talk) 22:48, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Population of Districts[edit]

Several unregistered users have been making apparently random changes to the population figures. Official 2004 census figures are available from two sources. User Sittaconde requests, in last edit to article, that 2007 estimates be used. I have found no source for these. Are they original research? I have asked for a source to be cited. Can Sittaconde or any other Wikipedian provide this, or is it the case that this and other Wikipedia articles are being misused? Dbfirs (talk) 09:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I have reinstated confirmed 2004 census data to this and a number of related articles. Games are being played with distances between cities (I must find my atlas!), and names of well-known people. Does anyone know which of these are genuine and which are fictitious? dbfirs 22:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
A recent edit by unregistered user 71.163.213.244 claims authority for population figures from “the country’s official website”. In fact Sierraeye.net was set up in December 2007 and is administered by someone called Davide Baldoni who appears to live in Ancona, Italy. Information from this website cannot be as reliable as the official 2004 census data available elsewhere on the web (see footnotes and external links). This user, who refuses to engage in discussion, has changed the population figures many times, replacing the genuine figures with strangely varying values. I propose to reinstate the genuine figures. Please let me know if you disagree. I would be particularly pleased to hear from 71.163.213.244 or any of the other editors who have been playing games with the numbers. dbfirs 10:31, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
  • We now have reasonable estimates from three different sources for the populations of major towns. Unfortunately, these three sources do not agree. I would prefer to keep 2004 census figures where available, but I have left the conflicting estimates because some editors seem to feel strongly about the drop in urban populations during the civil war, and I agree that urban areas will have recovered much of their former populations by now. Does anyone know of reliable recent estimates? dbfirs 21:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Population-of.com website seems to give reasonable-sounding estimates. Does it just take the last census figure and apply an inflation formula, or does it use a more reliable method? In either case, the figures ought to be rounded sensibly if the numbers are estimates rather than counts. Does anyone know? dbfirs 13:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Confused Over Official Languages Status[edit]

I read this article and it mentions that Bengali is one of the two official languages of Sierra Leone, and there are two sources in the article to confirm it, but I want a clarification just in case, because I'm doing a school report about Sierra Leone, please and thanks. =) Kotakkasut (talk) 11:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

It was someone's strange idea of a joke, of course. Dbfirs 07:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

First inhabited[edit]

The current article claims that certain tribes were the "first" inhabitants. This is unlikely, historically, but may well be true if we have some dates rather than just "first" which could mean any date in the last 60,000 years. I propose to change the wording to "early inhabitants include" if no-one can come up with approximate chronology. Dbfirs 07:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I've made the change I suggested, but I'm not convinced that the information is accurate. One cited reference (from 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica) says:
"Sierra Leone is inhabited by various ethnic groups, the chief being the Timni, the Sulima, the Susu and the Mendi. From the Mendi district many curious steatite figures which had been buried have been recovered and are exhibited in the British Museum. They show considerable skill in carving. Of semi-negro races the Fula inhabit the region of the Scarcies. Freetown is peopled by descendants of nearly every negro tribe, and a distinct type known as the Sierra Leoni has been evolved; their language is Kreo is a vernacular language of its own right, order and substance, equivalent to any other world language. Kreo is equally influenced by French, Portugese, Yoruba and other local languages. It has its own grammar and structure. Since 1900 a considerable number of Syrians and Lebanese migrants have settled in the country as traders. Most of the African population are pagans and each tribe has its secret societies and fetishes. These are very powerful and are employed often for beneficent purposes, such as the regulation of agriculture and the palm-oil industry. There are many Christian converts (chiefly Anglicans and Wesleyans) and Muslims. In the Northern areas are some Muslim tribes, as for instance the Susu. The majority of the Sierra Leonis are nominally Christian. The European population numbers about Soo. Towns. - Besides Freetown (q.v.) the capital (pop., Igor, 34,463), the most important towns are Bonthe, the port of Sherbro, Port Lokko, at the head of the navigable waters of a stream emptying itself into the Sierra Leone estuary, and Songo Town, 30 m. S.E. of Freetown, with which it is connected by railway. In the interior are many populous centres. The most noted is Falaba, about 190 m. N.E. of Freetown on the Fala river, a tributary of the Little Scarcies. It lies about 1600 ft. above the sea. Falaba was founded towards the end of the 18th century by the Sulima who revolted from the Muslim Fula, and its normadic inhabitants soon attained supremacy over the neighbouring villages and country."
Obviously, the situation has changed since 1911, but I wonder how accurate are the statements in the Wikipedia article. I'm not qualified to judge. Does anyone know? Dbfirs 07:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Population inflation[edit]

Further inflated figures have been entered for population figures. Some of these edits are so obviously false that one wonders what is the motivation for such edits (e.g. adding 100,000 to official census figures). Would the false editors care to reply? Dbfirs 08:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Official Language[edit]

Below are some of the sources that state English as the only official Language of Sierra Leone:

I can only find the newspaper articles The Daily Times (2002) from Pakistan that reports Bengali as an official language.

I don't know if this was an official language at the time of the newspaper report but in order to include this in the article an official source from Sierra Leone will be needed that says Bengali is an official Language of the country. --Kaly99 (talk) 21:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, though we should include the report somewhere in the article. Dbfirs 15:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
I notice that the account of the announcement in 2002 has been removed from the article, so people keep adding Bengali back as an official language, thinking that they are adding genuine information. Could we put back the report, mentioning that it was a gesture that was never implemented? Dbfirs 16:23, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Population of Bo district[edit]

I've reverted the change I made to the population figures for Bo district after checking the official figures (from Statistics Sierra Leone). The mistake came about because for local government the Bo district administration area is split into Bo district and Bo Township and it was Bo district local council figures on the other site under Bo district. There's only minor variations between the figure in the table and the official 2004 census results so it may be a good idea to change so they are in line with this and then use this as the source for the data. What do people think? --Kaly99 (talk) 19:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent suggestion. There are many differing current estimates, so the 2004 census provides valuable stable figures. This source appears to be the definitive version, so it would be best to adjust to this. Would you like to do so, or shall I? Dbfirs 08:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I've corrected the figures to the official 2004 census figures and left a comment next to the table asking people not to change these without discussion. --Kaly99 (talk) 19:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Population figures[edit]

The latest official figures for population are the 2004 census figures, however if there is consensus for including newer estimates an extra column could be made in the table. I think we should just stick with the 2004 figure but what do other people think? Also the site these figures are on doesn't seem to be a reliable source, I'll see if I can find some 2008 estimate on a reliable website. --Kaly99 (talk) 17:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I've added the figures back in but left the districts with 2008 estimates for now. Checking the website it is run by one person who makes the estimates himself from the official figures and comments that "census figures are more accurate than estimates and that figures officially issued by the national or local statistical agency are more accurate than figures from other sources". This being the case I don't think this qualifies as a reliable source and I don't think these figures should be used in the article. What do other people think? --Kaly99 (talk) 06:25, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I found a photo of Sierra Leone's State Hous, the official home of the country's president. Can someone please post it on the Sierra Leone wikipedia page?[edit]

I found a photo of Sierra Leone's State Hous, the official home of the country's president at this website:http://picasaweb.google.com/meyega/SierraLeone2007/photo#5051394963698884306. Can someone please post it on the Sierra Leone wikipedia page?

I found a beautiful picture of Freetown, Sierra Leone. Can someone please put the image on wikipedia?[edit]

I've found a beautiful photo of Freetown, Sierra Leone at this website:http://www.sierra-leone.org/Freetown/content/postcard07_Freetown_skyline__large.html. Since i do not know how to upgrade photos onto wikipedia, can someone please upgrade this pretty photo of Freetown on Freetown, Sierra Leone wikipedia page. Thank You

These photo's are copyrited and are unavaliable to be used on wikipedia. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 06:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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sierra leone[edit]

                                       SIERRA LEONE

The Portuguese were the first europeans to explore the land and give sierra leone its name,which means "lion mountains".In 1808 the coastal area became a british colony, and in 1896 a british protectorate was proclaimed over the hinterland.sierra leone became an independent nation on april 27,1961.

In 1462, it was visited by the portuguese explorer Pedro da cintra, who gave it itss name serra de leano, meaning "lion mountains" 1808, the interior of the country became a british protectorate; in 1961, the two combined and gained independence.

independence

-from the united kingdom:april 27, 1961 -republic declared:april 17, 1971

In 1787, the british established sierra leone as a place for freed african slaves to live,it later became a british colony and then gained independence in 1961.they were colonized by the british —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.224.148 (talk) 01:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Biased Article[edit]

This article, while informative, ignores the responsibilities of many of the major players of the Sierra Leone civil war. Unfortunately, the article parrots the beliefs and propaganda of the Occident and of the Western companies that are raping Sierra Leone of it's resources, it's wealth and it's people. Atrocities were committed by all sides, including by the foreign mercenaries and international "Peace Keepers." Please remember to see conflict through the eyes of the disavowed and forgotten, not through the eyes of a politician who has everything to gain from misinformation and deceit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Druyaden (talkcontribs) 21:01, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the viewpoint of the article should be neutral and unbiased, and that mistakes are made in any "war". Have you examined your own opinion for bias? Dbfirs 18:55, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Dbfirs seems to be taking the above criticisms personally, I wonder why. No I don't, I already know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.32.43.224 (talk) 16:27, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Well you seem to know more than I do, because I didn't know that I was taking it personally, or why you think I was. My only connection with Sierra Leone is that I know someone who used to live there (and had no connection with politicians or with western companies). Are you Druyaden? Dbfirs 07:13, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

kids][edit]

they get nikerd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.42.7.5 (talk) 12:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Introduction and Early History[edit]

The introduction at present has "Tyra" as a Sierra Leone group; there are no Tyra people.

Early History: Archaeological data in SL show solid evidence for occupation from about 5000 years ago (calibrated radiocarbon date for the earliest layer at Kamabai Rock Shelter). It's very likely that SL was occupied thousands of years earlier (early level at Yengema Cave), but there are no direct radiometric dates. The date for the introduction of iron in the article is approximately correct.

References:

Carleton S. Coon, Yengema Cave Report (1968); John H. Atherton, "La Préhistoire de la Sierra Leone," L'ANTHROPOLOGIE (1984) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpelle (talkcontribs) 02:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I would like to know about the main occupation of the people in Sierra Leone, whether it is fishing or what? What is the scope about Fisheries there in Sierra Leonea? pLS SOME BODY HELP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.188.105.25 (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Bangla?[edit]

I don't think this should be listed as an "official language".--Jimbo Wales (talk) 19:41, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I have removed this several times, and added the report just in the running text lower down, but I notice that someone has removed this and someone else has recently put Bangla back in the info box. I'll move it again. Dbfirs 15:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

This is great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.80.11.31 (talk) 16:25, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

It wasn't me this time who put Bangla up in the info box again. Thanks for putting the report in the running text.Ratibgreat (talk) 12:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I've taken it out of the info box yet again. Dbfirs 18:52, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't think newspaper articles are reliable source for the official language of a country. As this has been going on for sometime I've posted on the reliable sources notice board to get some input. Kaly99 (talk) 16:02, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
It's not an official language, of course, but the president seems to have made some statement. Would it be preferable to report that some newspapers reported the president's statement? Dbfirs 20:31, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

GDP per capita is wrong[edit]

According to the world factbook, the gdp per capita is $900 USD —Preceding unsigned comment added by Macsonn (talkcontribs) 17:45, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Redirection[edit]

I motion for a redirect to Blood Diamond at the top of this page. 68.123.103.119 (talk) 07:10, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

If noone objects, I will put this into place 68.123.103.119 (talk) 03:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Anyone at all? If not, I will make the edits. 71.193.63.112 (talk) 00:08, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't think you mean a "redirection". Obviously, this would be immediately reverted as vandalism. Dbfirs 18:50, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Actually, you may be reverted as vandalism. 67.166.152.205 (talk) 01:32, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Are you replying to me? Are you the proposer of the redirect? Dbfirs 21:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Section removed[edit]

The section on NPRC Junta was removed as part of extensive edits. There may well be good reasons for the removal. Dbfirs 21:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

The information's been moved to the History of Sierra Leone article. I've been moving information to the sub-article as the History section was (and still is) significantly longer then the 4-6 paragraphs mention in the countries project guidelines. Happy for anyone the change things back or to discuss the best way forward. Kaly99 (talk) 21:24, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick explanation. I'd missed spotting the move — it sounds sensible. I'll delete the text of the moved section from this page since you've preserved it elsewhere. Dbfirs 21:33, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

object of preposition missing - founded by whom?[edit]

"In 1787 a settlement was founded by in Sierra Leone in what was called the "Province of Freedom"."01:40, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


Portuguese title[edit]

That the name "Sierra Leone" comes from Portuguese is not mentioned until a late stage in the article. It would be good if a fundamental fact such as this went earlier in the article. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 16:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't come from Portuguese, at least not directly. It cames from the Italian translation of the Portuguese Serra Leoa. The words "Sierra" and "Leone" don't exist in Portuguese. 187.20.11.36 (talk) 01:56, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Chronological nonsense[edit]

So in 1967 there was an election, and Stevens was appointed Prime Minister in April 1967, and then ousted in a coup by the military officer, and then there was another coup by a different military officer in March 1967. As it stands, this chronology does not make sense.Eregli bob (talk) 10:15, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Freetown Local Government[edit]

I have a question. Freetown is located in the Western Area Urban District, but does the urban area of Freetown have an associated local government below that the Western Urban Area District? Or, is "Freetown" simply an urban settlement without an associated government within the Western Urban Area District? Judging by maps I've seen, there doesn't seem to be in chiefdoms in the West Urban Area, but the article seems to mention on a number of occassions that Freetown is a "municipality", which makes me think that there might be a local government apart from the government of the wider district. Are there any other local governments/councils in the Western Urban Area outside of Freetown municipality? --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:57, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Colonial Era History[edit]

This section isn't in chronological order, and could use some reorganizing. Wikipedian192 (talk) 05:33, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

How is the country's name pronounced in Krio? Rotcaeroib (talk) 13:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)