Talk:Silvina Moschini

A fact from Silvina Moschini appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 July 2012 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that internet entrepreneur Silvina Moschini (pictured) believes Wikipedia should allow advertising as a way of funding improved academic content?

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Draft[edit]

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Hi folks. This is a draft for a new stub/start class biography article about Silvina Moschini. Any and all comments welcome. Much thanks for your reviews about if this is ready for mainspace. (And please feel free to edit the draft with any improvements.) Cheers. -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 11:41, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Photo[edit]

I'd like to help, but I have admit I couldn't get past the strange choice of cropping on the photo. Is there any particular reason that Ms. Moschini's dress is omitted? It sets a tone that seems inappropriate somehow. Nothing to do with Wikipedia policy. It's just not something I'd personally feel comfortable moving into main space. Woz2 (talk) 00:00, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, I'm not sure why the image is cropped that way. I've replaced it with a different, more conventional, photo also found on Commons. Cheers -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 07:36, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some comments[edit]

Looks good. I made some edits in your sandbox. Feel free to revert. Some more suggestions.

How about a paragraph on education? There seems to be something you can leverage from the Spanish version.
The sources often mention Ms. Moschini's nick name is "Miss Internet" any way to weave it in? It seems to be a big part of her life both personally (the match.com aspect) and professionally
The most notable citation IMHO were the CNN ones but I couldn't verify them as they are. There are YouTube clips to link to. Wondering about adding those (if policy allows)?

--Woz2 (talk) 10:46, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. No worry about the edits, let's see what others think of the changes.

For education: yes would be possible to add text for that, and infobox content. I'm not sure of the verification/referencing requirements, but I'll take a look at the biography policy and find out. This could be done after the article is in mainspace, too.

For "Miss Internet": there's a few mentions of the nickname in some of the references. I'm not sure how the nickname came about, so I was hesitant to add it into the draft yet.

For the CNN and TV appearances: there are rebroadcasts of many of them on youtube. I think the youtube links can't be used in the articles unless there's a clear copyright permission present from CNN, etc. But for verification here on the talk page youtube links are probably OK. I'll make a list and post them here later today.

Cheers -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 12:13, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TV appearances[edit]

As discussed above, for verification here are youtube links to some of the TV appereances by Silvina Moschini:

on CNN en Español:

Pinterest - June 2012
Facebook - May 2012 (with english subtitles)
Transparent Business - May 2012 (with english subtitles)
"Keys to Digital Marketing" - April 2012 (with english subtitles)
Cyber Monday - November 2011
Electronic Commerce - November 25, 2011
Youtube - October 2011
Steve Jobs - October 7, 2011
Steve Jobs - October 6, 2011
Steve Jobs - August 25, 2011
Congreso Mundial de Telefonía Móvil - February 16, 2011
Wikipedia 10th Anniversary - January 2011

on Nuestra Tele Noticias 24 Horas:

on Canal 5 Noticias:

Thanks. -- Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 13:10, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! These ensure notability in my mind. --Woz2 (talk) 13:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Renown? Credibility? Newsworthy?[edit]

Is this reporter even renowned enough to have her expressed opinions on the front page of Wiki?? I don't see what basis there is to include a quote by her on the front page of Wikipedia other than the publicity it elicits. Which seems like poor reasoning to me. 76.229.213.148 (talk) 07:41, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comment. If you read WP:PEOPLE I think you'll agree Ms. Moschini is notable. The fact that CNN selects her for expert opinion on internet commerce, for example. And the article was reviewed by the "Did you know" process before being featured on the front page. But I'm wondering if your objection is notability, or the fact that you are of a different opinion re advertising on Wikipedia? I wrote some of the article and the DKY "hook" and even I don't agree with Ms. Moschini's opinion about advertising on Wikipedia. However, that's no reason not to write about her. We try to have a neutral point of view here. And Wikipedia is robust enough to sustain critical examination of our policies. Cheers! Woz2 (talk) 11:31, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see how Ms. Moschini meets even remotely meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. Having a slew of TV appearances does not meet the criteria. The basic requirement to establish notability is that reliable sources deemed Ms. Moschini, herself, to be of sufficient interest that they did stories on her. Jsg68x (talk) 14:59, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Overcite[edit]

removed from lead as overciting- placed here in case anyone would like to use them. Curdle (talk) 12:42, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mann, Joseph (October 30, 2003). "VISITING LATINS CALL THIS OFFICE HOME MISOFICINAS' EXPERTISE GIVES FIRMS SUPPORT THEY NEED TO GET STARTED IN U.S." South Florida Sun-Sentinel. p. 1D.</ref>

Reina, Laura (May 30, 2004). "Líderes reales para manejar equipos de trabajo virtuales" [Real leaders to manage virtual teams]. La Nación (in Spanish).</ref>

Totah, José (August 31, 2004). "El negocio de hacer rentable Internet" [The business of making the Internet profitable] (in Spanish). El Cronista.</ref>

Vidal, Alicia (December 21, 2010). "Community Management: cómo manejar las redes sociales online y no colapsar en el intento" [Community Management: managing social networks online and not failing in the attempt] (in Spanish). iProfesional.com. Retrieved July 1, 2012.</ref>

Arébalos, Alberto (2010). "Las nuevas relaciones con los medios: En un mundo de comunicaciones directas, ¿es necesario hacer media relations?" [The new media relations: In a world of direct communication, are media relations necessary?]. Cuadernos del Centro de Estudios en Diseño y Comunicación (Journal of the Center for Studies in Design and Communication) (in Spanish) (33): 87–100. ISSN 1853-3523.</ref>

"La delgada línea entre las marcas y las redes sociales" [The fine line between brands and social networks] (in Spanish). Argentina: Canal AR. May 3, 2011.</ref>

"Mujeres en la tecnología" [Women and technology]. PC World En Español (in Spanish). March 8, 2012. (reprinted at intuic.com)</ref>