Talk:Simultaneum

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Merger "shared church" and "simultaneum"[edit]

The material form Shared church and Simultankirche has all been added here. The page Shared church needs to be redirected here. Ane I blieve that this page should then be renamed Shared church as the most widely used English term, following Benjamin J. Kaplan.AMuseo (talk) 13:01, 22 August 2010 (UTC)


Hi. We are dealing here with terminology and definitions. One single source (Kaplan) isn't usually enough of a base for such issues. Besides, this Kaplan source is given w/o online access and is impossible to verify. VERY shaky base for building a WP page, let alone for merging two not obviously synonymous items!
Isn't "simultaneum" a term coined and usable only for a specific historical European context? The French WP article indicated as a source (?!) seems to support this notion and gives a narrow, precise definition of the term.
As a consequence: Is it sure that the Status quo (Holy Land sites) is accepted as a form of simultaneum? Not every form of inter-denominational sharing must necessarily be a "simultaneum". In the Holy Land, it is the result of a fundamentally different historical process.
Unless it is validated by several good sources, editors should not presume that any "shared church" qualifies as a simultaneum. If the DEFINITION of a s. is the cohabitation of Catholics and Protestants, then for instance the Holy Land status quo departs the stage with a bow. So we should bring a clear definition, then list up examples.
Talking of which: these interminable lists should be separated somehow from the theoretical article, they contribute close to nothing at clarifying the term at hand, which is the No. 1 job of an encyclopedia. They just overwhelm the user. One can see from the given examples where the phenomenon is to be found, but that should be done by the article, with explanations, as was done with the Palatinate--now that's a valuable bit of information.
After a good look at what's available here, I strongly suggest to place "simultaneum" as one specific sub-chapter of the "shared church" page. The same could be done with the specific case of the "Status quo (Holy Land sites)", w/o merging that page into "shared church".ArmindenArminden (talk) 21:50, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

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