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|Wikipedia Version 1.0 Editorial Team / v0.5|
- 1 Some observations
- 2 The case of Shanmugam Murugesu
- 3 Smart Nation artcle
- 4 Concerning to the map in ASEAN (I can add a larger dot if editors think it looks too small, as in the case of Brunei)
- 5 singapore english
- 6 Democracy Index
- 7 Panoramic view of central district
- 8 mera name-jay prakash Kumar (sahani) and lalbabu kumar =village- musawa bhedihari (sugauli-east champaran (Bihar)
- 9 Second Paragraph, First line
- 10 Credit rating
- 11 Era Styles
I came to this page because I needed to get an overview of modern Singapore. Let me say right off that it is good to read with loads of information. The following comments are just my impressions as a reader.
Introduction The introduction is a bit in your face. There is such a wide coverage and so much detail that it it's a bit hard to digest. Suggest that it be summarised and some of the data be saved for later sections.
Pictures I feel that the pictures are too small (of course they can be expanded by clicking on them)
Tourism I haven't checked this, but surely Singapore has a large tourist industry. There is no coverage of this in the article.
Nature Yes, Singapore is a go-go nation with high urbanisation and land development but even though it's a small island there must be some areas of 'natural' beauty. Nothing of this is covered either in the text or by the pictures.
This is not meant to be a criticism of the Singapore page. On the contrary I enjoyed reading it. It's just my initial impression.
- To add to above. In government section, we learn that 6 MP's were elected from the opposition. This is MEANINGLESS unless we're told what proportion of the total that is, and unless we're told how many were previously in Parliment. This is not neutral POV, imho.Abitslow (talk) 15:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
The case of Shanmugam Murugesu
This appears to be a key point in the country's history. Not only many in Singapore but around the world were shocked by the hanging execution of a man for marijuana. The demonstrations that occurred in the country itself are worthy of note here, being the first large public questioning of a man killed by their justice system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 03:19, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Execution and civil liberties may seem to be important to you such that this is important enough to be included in the Wikipedia article about Singapore. Clue: It isn't. This article isn't about civil liberties. While you may want to champion your cause, this is the wrong place to do it. Stay relevant to the topic. --220.127.116.11 (talk) 18:38, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
"Singapore finally finds a voice in death row protest
'The Canton meeting room at Singapore's drab Furama Hotel is an unlikely venue for history to be made. But on Friday night this bland setting hosted an unprecedented event for the tightly controlled island republic. Organisers of a three-hour vigil for Shanmugam Murugesu, who is likely to be executed on Friday for possession of 1 kilo of marijuana, said it was the nation's first public gathering organised solely by citizens demanding a change to the law.'
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/may/08/johnaglionby.theobserver — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 03:23, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
hi alarics. not sure what your point is? a historic event is not based on its currency in time. it could have been 1,000 years ago, or today. thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 22:12, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- And your point is? I refer you to Wikipedia's policy about giving undue weight to minority views. Just because someone said something doesn't mean it should be included. --126.96.36.199 (talk) 18:33, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
Smart Nation artcle
There is a proposal to convert Smart Nation, an article about Singapore's 'Smart Nation' project into a redirect to Smart city. Content from that article may be appropriate to add to this article and I am inviting people here to enter the discussion on talk:Smart Nation. PeterEastern (talk) 05:24, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
Concerning to the map in ASEAN (I can add a larger dot if editors think it looks too small, as in the case of Brunei)
As I said in the article about Brunei, Singapore is a small country, so it may be barely visible in this map (and the same concern I have about Brunei, so I've edited this comment in the Brunei article Talk Page). If the editors about Singapore have any problem with it, I can add a quite larger dot on Singapore's location (and the same is applyable to Brunei). Thanks for reading and for all of your suggestions. Mondolkiri1 (talk) 3:16, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
This section should be changed: "singapore english is based on british english" seems to refer to the standard written language but is ambiguous; there are a few lines discussing the relationship between the standard language and local creole but this needs work as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by Telmac (talk • contribs) 15:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
So on 10.03.2015 YJAX made an edit, 'upgrading' Singapore to a 'flawed democracy'.
However, the most recent Democracy Index available from 2013 (Democracy index 2013: Democracy in limbo) still classifies it as a 'hybrid regime' - so I don't see what's the basis for that edit.CryptoCopter (talk) 19:39, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
- The latest Democracy Index in 2014 moved Singapore up to the 'flawed democracies' category.--Joshua Talk to me What I've done? 10:40, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
- "The People's Action Party has won every election since self-government began in 1959. The dominance of the PAP, coupled with one of the world's lowest levels of press freedom and most suppressed civil liberties and political rights, has led to Singapore being the lowest ranked developed country in the Democracy Index, classified as a flawed democracy." - This source needs to be cited. Furthermore, stating that the cause of the classification is due to the dominance of the PAP without any reference at all makes it sound like original research. This is one of the only claims made in the introduction without being verified. If this does not get fixed, I will delete it. --188.8.131.52 (talk) 00:05, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Panoramic view of central district
Can anyone verify that the panoramic view of the central district (last image in the article) is legitimate? The entire right 3rd of the image looks clone-stamped together with all of the duplicate buildings, but I suppose it's possible the city has actually been built like that to save costs. Some guy (talk) 08:42, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
- The picture looks alright to me. Those seemly identical buildings on the right are HDB public housing blocks, which are built closely in clusters to save space and costs.--Joshua Talk to me What I've done? 13:29, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
mera name-jay prakash Kumar (sahani) and lalbabu kumar =village- musawa bhedihari (sugauli-east champaran (Bihar)
Second Paragraph, First line
- "Belonged to" is fine. The sentence means that the island was ruled by a series of empires (Srivijaya, Majapahit, Malacca, Johor, to name a few). "Hosted" may imply that there were several (mini) empires located on such a small island, which is most likely not the case.--Joshua Talk to me What I've done? 10:07, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
I think that, unless quoting a document or setting a chronological premise (you know, all the usual Wikipedia exceptions for this kind of thing), all instances of an calendre era should be in the BCE/CE (Before Common Era/Common Era) format, rather than the BC/AD (Before Christ/After Death [of Christ]) format. Although identical in meaning, the former has a more neutral connotation to it, which I think not only is more socially appropriate for a general encyclopedic platform, but also better fits Wikipedia's NPOV policy.
Apparently, though, there are some who disagree with me (my edit in the 2nd paragraph, Top section got reverted), so I figured I would post a thing on the Talk page to discuss it. :) What do you all think? SarahTehCat (talk) 19:27, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Just an addition: I did not know about WP:ERA, so I apologise. Nevertheless, I still think that this would be a good idea overall, at least for the points I mentioned above, and I'd like to hear what you all think. SarahTehCat (talk) 19:40, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- As established by our MOS at WP:ERAS, we must leave AD/BC vs. CE/BCE as-is in all articles, unless there is consensus that an article-specific reason exists that requires one or the other. Without that, we must leave this article as it stands, using AD/BC.
- I can't think of any such reasoning that might apply here. --A D Monroe III (talk) 19:44, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- I prefer AD/BC and would rather leave it as-is. By the way, I can't believe "AD" Monroe is commenting on this. Did you create that account just to discuss this issue or is that a coincidence? It's pretty awesome. Kendall-K1 (talk) 00:25, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
@A D Monroe III: Two things:
1. True. Good point. 👍
2. I agree with @Kendall-K1: I would like to know if you did that, too. Kind of amusing, actually. Haha...