Talk:Six Flags AstroWorld

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Please update the demolition section as more info becomes available.

I don't understand the need to include this section. Will every rideand attraction be listed as it is being removed? Since this is an ongoing process, will the list of demolished attractions be updatedfrequently? When everything is gone, will this list be retained or this entire section removed? Thanks Postoak 02:24, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

It won't include every ride as it is removed. It'll just keep track and keep people informed.

Now that everything has been done, this section might work as some sort of timeline. I can do some research before making any changes. Jay77tx 12:16, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

It is mentioned that "Looping Starship" has been relocated to "Clute, Texas" when in the Six Flags Over Texas entry, the ride is claimed to have been moved there. Either thos article or the Six Flags Over Texas article is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

It appears that some of the theming went to Clute and the ride went to SFOT. [1], [2] Postoak (talk) 05:00, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Criticism section[edit]

Astroworld is gone. It is just memory. For me, a very pleasant memory. The Houston Press article was written years ago. What is the purpose of adding the criticism section now? Postoak 23:23, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


  1. History
  • 60's Original park layout/attractions/design/unique to park

There has got to be a better photo of the clocktower structure in Alpine Valley. The mice animatronics weren't even operating on the day that photo was taken. Jay77tx 22:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Not very many PD images to be found. I took this right before the park closed in October 2005. Postoak 00:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
If it's PD, and it's yours... then it's fabulous for now! Jay77tx 01:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • 70's - golden years
  • 80's - waterworld / southern star amphitheater / videocity
I would like to compile a list of performances that occurred at Southern Star. Jay77tx 17:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
  • 90's - Time Warner / park and chain in transition /
  • 2000's -
  1. Mutiple owners
  2. Sponsors - I'd like to try and compile a list of sponsors and the attraction(s) they sponsored. Jay77tx 22:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
  3. Incidents - attraction and visitor
  4. Closing events
I think the article's history section should be grouped by decades. This would eliminate many of the single-line paragraphs. What do you think? Postoak 00:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Understood. As I began to add entries to each year, it became clear that decade grouping was going to be necessary for cleanup. I will revise as soon as possible unless you wish to revert to a prior version. I'd be happy if you'd let me have a chance to reorganize everything. Jay77tx 01:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Sure thing, great work. I'm checking for references to add. Look at the old Time magazine article from '68 I just added! Postoak 01:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh, my goodness! The article mentions the E.P.C.O.T. being planned! I love it! Jay77tx 17:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Park name[edit]

Should the park name revert back to the original name of "AstroWorld" now that Six Flags sold the property (where the demolished park once stood) and no longer owns it? Thanks, Postoak 20:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I vote leave it be, after all it was a Six Flags park for most of the span of ownership. Though the common name in Houston was just "Astroworld," nobody really mentioned the Six Flags part. Each side has a valid reasoning. Feedloadr 05:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I apologize for neglecting to sign my previous comments. Now that the park no longer exists, I feel that (for the purposes of this article) the Six Flags Corporation should not be mentioned until the year 1975 within the History section. I would like to see this article begin with more information about the park prior to ownership by Six Flags Corp. It would be very nice to have the title of the article changed to simply "AstroWorld" and have "Six Flags AstroWorld" as a redirect. Jay77tx 21:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

And while we're on the subject of names, it's AstroWorld -- NOT Astroworld! Jay77tx 22:50, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Lead section[edit]

The lead section of this article is too lengthy and detailed. Please summarize into 2–3 paragraphs. —RJN 22:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Sky Screamer[edit]

The ride's operating manual referred to the vehicles as gondolas, not cars. Sky Screamer had a lift chain, not a cable. Two chain dogs were located at opposite ends of the lift chain. The typical clink clank of the chain lift anti-rollbacks was not present in this ride design. Jay77tx 15:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Ethnographic Studies of AstroWorld[edit]

I am a former AstroWorld worker and I attempted to add a reference to a short ethnographic study of AstroWorld. An administrator deleted this reference. While I was the author, this added important information about the entry and offered one of the few published pieces on the theme park. It's unfortunate that an encyclopedia cannot included academic as well as popular information. I also believe that first-hand knowledge of a subject should count for something on Wikipedia. Xrhetor (talk) 19:39, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Xrhetor, this is not about "censorship", "tolerance", "politics" or any of the other false claims you're making about my actions. Simply put, a substantial percentage of your edits have involved anonymously posting links, text and other references to your own published work. You may well disagree with the decision to remove your self-references per the conflict of interest and other guidelines, as is your right. You're also certainly entitled to seek other opinions. However, I must object to your chosen methodology, which to date has involved the misrepresentation of both my actions and your own edits. If you want to have a fair, balanced discussion about this, by all means do so in a centralized location rather than on a series of unconnected talk pages, and be clear about what has really occurred. Making false claims, and spreading those claims to multiple pages, does not strike me as "fair" under any definition of the term. --Ckatzchatspy 23:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Ckatz, you have helped prove a point here. You are the arbiter and you are the one who gets to decide the nature of the content. This has been taken to a new level. I am not permitted to cite my own work, even though, to again quote Wikipedia's policy ("This policy does not prohibit editors with specialist knowledge from adding their knowledge to Wikipedia, but it does prohibit them from drawing on their personal knowledge without citing reliable sources. If an editor has published the results of his or her research in a reliable publication, the editor may cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our neutrality policy. See also Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest.") this can be allowed. Here is one example of how this ultimately impacts the quality of Wikipedia entries. If I wanted to discuss an ethnographic study of the theme park AstroWorld, which some might consider significant, I could not do this per your watchdogging. To do so would be to cite the only work published in this regard, which I have written. So, here you (Ckatz ) fail Wikipedia in two respects: (1) you have limited the encyclopedic content of an entry, (2) you have decided that expert knowledge on a subject is irrelevant. The new level, as you now have raised it, involves your rebuking of my contributions to a number of 'talk' pages. Talk pages are not part of the entry (directly) and now you are deeming those contributions to be illicit. But, certainly, this is not about the power of language, representation or politics...because, so it seems, you have said so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xrhetor (talkcontribs) 23:34, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Land Purchase[edit]

Just for future editing possibilities; Now that the land has been purchased and a new development might be constructed on this site, should the "current" use of this land be added, or should the article basically be frozen?--Hourick (talk) 19:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Article title[edit]

I propose moving the article to either AstroWorld or Six Flags AstroWorld (with the "W" in "World" uppercase, as this is how the official site and logos often display the name of the park). Currently, the "W" is lowercase. --Another Believer (Talk) 21:43, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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No consensus to move. The MoS discourages stylized names for articles which would include AstroWorld. So that one would need a new discussion if you want to change it in the existing title and also would need broader support. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:37, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

– I'm requesting this article be moved to AstroWorld. Six Flags is just a prefix they place on their parks and is not the official name of the park. Also this article has a lower case w, which should be a capital W. --Astros4477 (talk) 04:38, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Oppose moving to AstroWorld — the park's name when it closed was Six Flags Astroworld and I feel it should be left that way. I hold a neutral position about changing the W. Themeparkgc  Talk  05:41, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't sure about removing the Six Flags frefix, wanted to see what other people said. But i defiantly think the W should be capitalized because everything referred to it as that and from above speculation, other people agree. We'll see what other people comment. --Astros4477 (talk) 05:47, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
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Requested move (new)[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 07:04, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Six Flags AstroworldSix Flags AstroWorld – Park name always had a capital "W" in the middle. The park's official name according to the 2004 Six Flags Annual Financial Report to shareholders (before closure of the park) was Six Flags AstroWorld (with a capital "W"). It was typed this way throughout the report. It was also listed as Six Flags AstroWorld in the 2005 Annual Report (after the park closed). I didn't see the discussion in February or I would have chimed in then.JlACEer (talk) 15:20, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Support — I support this, I requested it in February so I agree. A few people have commented on it before so I feel the "w" should deffently be capitalized.--Astros4477 (talk) 16:09, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Support; CamelCase is allowed under our MOS:TM guidelines. Powers T 15:01, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Support — I would support removal of Six Flags altogether and return it to the original name of AstroWorld. Postoak (talk) 03:34, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
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Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Six Flags AstroWorld/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Add History cat Postoak 05:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Last edited at 07:04, 13 April 2012 (UTC). Substituted at 06:19, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Shows & Special Events[edit]

Regarding Special Events: In the process of editing Fright Fest, I have noticed that this article contains no mention of Fright Nights, which began in 1986 and ended in 1993, when it was renamed Fright Fest. The event then continued until the park closed in 2005. Judging from comments and reviews I have seen all over the internet, this event was quite important to both the locals and the park staff. It seems an oversight to not include some history of it here. A case could be made that Six Flags Fright Fest, which continues today in all their parks, was actually born at AstroWorld as Fright Nights. The earliest reference to Fright Fest at any other Six Flags park is 1989. DoneOddjob84 (talk) 15:57, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

While likely true, this is original research, speculation, and not really suitable for a wiki article. You would need to find an outside source that reaches this conclusion.JlACEer (talk) 15:42, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Noting that Fright Nights at AstroWorld preceded Fright Fest at Six Flags over Texas by two years hardly qualifies as original research; more like a thuddingly obvious observation. If you are going to use that fine a sieve for everything amusement park, you'll be very busy. There are some whoppers out there. Oddjob84 (talk) 19:01, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Shows: In looking over the article, one would get the impression that AstroWorld was strictly a ride park. This is not completely true. For example, the Batman Forever Stunt Show, which ran 1995-1997 won the "best show" award each year it was open, voted by the Six Flags entertainment directors systemwide. There are any number of internet references to other well-received shows.

I would suggest adding a section to the article for Shows and Special Events. Oddjob84 (talk) 15:07, 15 March 2017 (UTC) Done Oddjob84 (talk) 15:57, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Added a concert list to the Southern Star Amphitheater page. Oddjob84 (talk) 13:18, 23 March 2017 (UTC)