Talk:Sleep

Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2023

Remove the sentence: "Alpha and beta waves are the only waves seen when a person is in an awake state." as this is not true (see source). The attached source shows that other waves, such as gamma waves can be present when a person is in an awake state, and therefore alpha waves and beta waves are not the only waves.

Quote from source: "Nearly 40 years later another group [82] recorded gamma waves (35–40 Hz) from many different areas of awake humans, including the visual cortex, especially during selective attention."

Source: John R. Hughes, Gamma, fast, and ultrafast waves of the brain: Their relationships with epilepsy and behavior, Epilepsy & Behavior, Volume 13, Issue 1, 2008, Pages 25-31, ISSN 1525-5050, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.yebeh.2008.01.011. (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1525505008000127) LauraJWheeler (talk) 16:09, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done Tollens (talk) 01:18, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

No mention of the invention?

When searching via Google Search the query "when was sleeping invented," News-Medical.net's article on the history of sleep appears with the highlighted segment "Around 450 BC." Where would this best be placed in the Sleep article?  Xan ✨ talk 21:17, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Sleep was not "invented" or "discovered" so that kind of wording would be inappropriate. A history section might be good (like there is for blood) that just covers science history related to our understanding of sleep. D1551D3N7 (talk) 16:49, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

• Beds. Pillows. Other stuff... 81.89.66.133 (talk) 11:45, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Introduction

The introduction has not introduced all the subtopics that are in this article. There are many topics that emerge in the text without an introduction of them. The introduction should be revised and be able to convey all the information that is being presented in this article. Kyliek3 (talk) 04:08, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

I agree. I propose to revise the intro to properly include all material in the article. Also propose to move most of the sleep disorder material from the intro to the article body, to comply with article structure best practices. Jaywilson (talk) 19:45, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

Time devoted to sleep

Sleep "consumes fully a third of our lives—approximately 25 years in the average lifetime" (Kandel et al. 2021, p. 1080). Any reason this shouldn't be added to the article? Viriditas (talk) 22:10, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Optimal nap time

• The optimal nap duration is around 10–20 minutes, as researchers have proven that it takes at least 30 minutes to enter slow-wave sleep, the deepest period of sleep

Not sure this is even true. Many sources recommend 45 minutes, and that's what I do. I've rarely had sleep inertia, and when I do, it isn't due to napping, it's due to other issues. Viriditas (talk) 22:19, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Biased writing

"Sleep health can be improved through implementing good sleep hygiene habits. Having good sleep hygiene can help to improve your physical and mental health by providing your body with the necessary rejuvenation only restful sleep can provide. Some ways to improve sleep health include going to sleep at consistent times every night, avoiding any electronic devices such as televisions in the bedroom, getting adequate exercise throughout your day, and avoiding caffeine in the hours before going to sleep. Another way to greatly improve sleep hygiene is by creating a peaceful and relaxing sleep environment. Sleeping in a dark and clean room with things like a white noise maker can help facilitate restful sleep."

This paragraph reads like an advertisement or medical advice rather than encyclopedic information. Shouldn't it be removed? 72.70.58.51 (talk) 23:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Agreed; I would expect something-something decibells or even a long example: something something inches of insulation are used in [district], located near [highway XXX]. Speaking of highways and engine roars: I wonder, how strong is the soundproofing in towns near Highway 666 (Highway 491 in XXI century)... 81.89.66.133 (talk) 12:00, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Function

The Function section of this article is woefully short compared to the overall article, about 10%, and the Restoration subsection is about 2%. This is despite ground-breaking research published in 2013 that shows that sleep is responsible for the "cleaning" of the brain, removing metabolic end-products that would otherwise inhibit proper brain function. This research has been discussed in the New York Times and the published paper was awarded the Newcomb Cleveland Prize of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).

I included this research a couple years ago in the Function section, but it was removed by Bon courage on 13 Nov 2023 with the comment "questionable sourcing" and without discussion in this Talk section. How is a paper published in Science and awarded a major prize to be considered questionable?

I will restore the deleted text and reference, and I will further add a much more recent discovery that further explains the mechanism for metabolite removal. I hope that the Function section can continue to expand to include the exciting research on the very origin and core function of sleep that is ongoing. Jaywilson (talk) 12:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Why do we sleepwalk?

The exact cause of sleepwalking is unknown, but it seems to run in families. You're more likely to sleepwalk if other members of your close family have or had sleepwalking behaviours or night terrors. The following things can trigger sleepwalking or make it worse: not getting enough sleep. Sleepwalking usually isn't serious. But people who sleepwalk are at high risk for injury from things like falling down stairs, jumping out of windows, sleep driving, eating and cooking in sleep. There are even recorded instances where people became violent while sleepwalking. Fortunately, violent behavior is very rare. Also, sleepwalkers' eyes are open, but they don't see the same way they do when they're awake. Often, they think they're in different rooms of the house or different places altogether. After sleepwalking episodes, they probably won't remember ever having done it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quanses1121 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

WP:NOTFORUM - propose a statement to improve the article and provide a WP:RS source. Zefr (talk) 01:41, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

@Zefr Well, hello there!

I have an idea: make a little section on sleepwalking. Currently, it's on'y mentioned briefly... just once.

Alternatively, let's try to expand the sleep hygiene section some day (inspired by this line: "The following things can trigger sleepwalking or make it worse: not getting enough sleep.") 81.89.66.133 (talk) 11:45, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

ctrl+f "violation" - 0 found

I've tried to look up whether one's violations 'ay/'an ruin a bunch of others' sleep. Context: some pitbikers in my area are night-noisy; which is... quite a test to my composure, to say the least. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 11:37, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Therefore: I would recomment to add a section how awful, community-quarreling, splash-damaging it is for one's district to have a noisy biker, let alone illegal street racing tuner with exuberant take on own vehicle's exhaust. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 11:38, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Sleep

Pls fix a job not doing a job 103.70.141.104 (talk) 12:00, 18 June 2025 (UTC)