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New social networking navbox[edit]

We're putting together a new navbox called "Social networking". We have no idea what we're doing and would welcome some help organizing the groups.

Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

ethnocentric[edit]

Maybe I'm crazy or out of line, but I really feel like this page is a little heavily focused on the development of scientific thought on society in Europe only and sort of leaves out what people in other places might have been scientifically thinking about society when Diderot was doing his deal. I admit I haven't read the whole page, but this is my impression after reading the first couple sections. 70.185.112.106 (talk) 06:09, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Psychiatry?[edit]

I sort of echo the concerns of the commenter above re: Psychology on the issue of whether psychiatry should be mentioned. Historically, it's only the last 30 years or so that psychiatry has embraced a more biomedical orientation, whereas before it was much more explicitly talking-cure focused, where that was possible anyways. The problem with these level 2 articles is that they are not particularly amenable to finding secondary sources, i think. it may be possible to find quotes calling psychiatry a social science or denying that it is, but my suspicion is that these will not be the focus of an article, because the term "social science", again like many of the level 2 article terms, is fairly weak category-wise. Im not sure how to address this, but I suspect it's why there are a few level 2s that are in desperate need of revision. -- [UseTheCommandLine ~/talk] #_ 17:44, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Frankly, I don't quite see what exactly your problem is right now. From what you've written I can only infer that, basically, you're in doubt as to the proper status of psychiatry yourself?! But if you're in doubt, why then have it included in the first place? With all due respect, this makes no sense at all. Based on that, we could just as well include dozens of disciplines that appear to be border cases in whatever regard. But why would one do that and what for? At least you'll agree that psychiatry is a branch of medicine proper (psychology isn't!) and psychiatrists, in most places, will almost always tend to be ordinarily trained MDs. They are authorized to (and do) prescribe drugs! If this isn't application, what is? Psychologists (like linguists, anthropologists, ...), by the way, again aren't -- unless they happen to be an MD at the same time, of course.
Merely have a look at the section titled Methodology and explain to me, convincingly, how/where psychiatry fits in there. And if so, why that would then still exclude geriatrics, pediatrics, sexual medicine, ... in short, all of medicine. Zero Thrust (talk) 21:32, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
In some areas, psychologists can prescribe drugs (though in some places, a prescription is not needed to buy drugs from a pharmacy).
And yes, i agree with you that medicine is a social science. -- [UseTheCommandLine ~/talk] #_ 04:03, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
(not purely a social science, but it's got elements of it anyway. particularly clinical practice.) -- [UseTheCommandLine ~/talk] #_ 04:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Social science a science?[edit]

I've noticed that the first statement shies away from the referring to it as a science (rather an "academic discipline"). There is that "part of a series on science" template, the Science article mentioning it and File:The Scientific Universe.png. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:25, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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Dr. Charness's comment on this article[edit]

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1) As per "economic imperialism" (mentioned twice, separately), I might mention that the effort by economists to include ideas from other disciplines has helped to improve understand of phenomena at the boundaries of economics with other disciplines.


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  • Reference : Charness, Gary & Masclet, David & Villeval, Marie Claire, 2013. "The Dark Side of Competition for Status," University of California at Santa Barbara, Economics Working Paper Series qt3858888w, Department of Economics, UC Santa Barbara.

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Psychology in the Introduction[edit]

Can we discuss where, or if, this should be placed in the introduction? I contend that as psychology should be placed where it was in my edit, as in most dictionary definitions of social science that include a list of social sciences, it is included. Additionally, with some exceptions for biopsychology, academic institutions generally classify it as a social science as well. I can see why it doesn't fit quite as easily as economics and sociology, but it fits here better than in natural sciences, and it seems a categorization is desired, as is done in Template:Science. Dayshade (talk) 17:23, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Relationship to Social engineering[edit]

I think that it would good if we could address the relationship of Social Engg. to the social sciences.

Or do you think I should take this to the Political Science page?

Aditya 21:15, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

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Neutral Point of View template added in Oct 2017 - propose removing it[edit]

In October 2017, user Aristotele1982 added the POV-lead template, disputing the "neutrality" of the introduction's point of view. There was no discussion of it on this talk page; the page history shows the comment "this article misleadingly suggests that the term science in "Social Sciences" is equivalent to Science as used in physics and other disciplines that use scientific method to test hypothesis. Whether or not sociology or economy are sciences is debatable". The article does not, as far as I can see, state this explicitly; it seems to be the very existence of the article on "social science" that is objected to. Since "social science" is a long established term, well sourced in this article, I propose we remove the POV template. Peace Makes Plenty (talk) 09:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Since that user will not discuss this here, just saying on their own talk page that the status of 'social sciences' is disputed, despite the concept being about 200 years old, and is not suggesting any improvements to the article, I'm going to remove the template. There is nothing about the article that isn't 'neutral'. Peace Makes Plenty (talk) 12:16, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

I second removing the template.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 13:24, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Human science[edit]

These two topics appear to be mostly the same thing, and cover broadly the same fields. If it's just that the specific classification used for "human sciences" is slightly different then it could be mentioned in Social science somewhere. Jc86035 (talk) 14:13, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm....There is a peer-reviewed journal devoted to the topic and some degrees in it are offered, and from the information I can glean through these, human science is an independent theme, significantly broader than social science.
If not merged, the Human science article needs a lot of cleanup. Clean Copytalk 16:27, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Though personally I've never heard of human science (and I'm a social scientist), my suspicion is that the two terms represent two distinct traditions for organizing the relationships between things like sociology, anthropology, history, etc. Judging from the article, "human science" also includes biological studies, which the social sciences don't generally include as a core part of their understanding. I'll look around for a source that distinguishes the two, though for now I'd recommend not merging. - - mathmitch7 (talk/contribs) 18:41, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
Oppose as well. – Finnusertop (talkcontribs) 05:09, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Oppose social science is the commonly used term - which implies the merged article would have that name (and the proposal to merge human sciences into this one further supports that). But an article on social science can impossibly include (e.g.) biochemistry (which is not part of any social science, but is listed as part of the human sciences). Arnoutf (talk) 14:03, 22 October 2018 (UTC)