Talk:Socialist calculation debate

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The link to L. Kantorovich page is broken and the name is mispelled. It should be "Leonid" (not Leonoid). The page is:

Kropotkin, among others[edit]

The section under Foundations names Kropotkin as one of the "proponents of decentralized economic planning or market socialism". This is ambiguous and possibly misleading - Kropotkin was a "proponent of decentralized economic planning", but he did not promote market socialism in any form; he was a market abolitionist.


"However, no detailed outlines for decentralized economic planning were proposed by these thinkers at this time."

Untrue in the case of Kropotkin (and Engels and Trotsky, for that matter). Kropotkin's Fields, Factories and Workshops explores just that question of practical implementation. His Conquest of Bread suggests how these social structures might be built in the midst of the revolutionary moment itself. His letters to communist colonies show broad outlines as well as direct proposals in specific groups. And his critiques of collectivist anarchist and labor note currency are coupled with his suggestions of how to handle these issues of organization without instituting markets or wages.

This section needs a re-write. Jim Casy (talk) 04:35, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Can you provide any reliable secondary sources that outline his specific proposals for economic coordination and valuation of resources? If so, it definitely deserves a mention in this article. Incidentally, I have not come across any mention of Kropotkin's model in any of the economic literature on socialist calculation. -Battlecry 00:36, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Cockshot and Cottrell / Cybernetic[edit]

no where in towards a new socialism does C&C claim their system to be 'cybernetic'. merely using information technology does not make a system 'cybernetic'. Cybernetics is an independent discipline related to systems research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)