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proteolytic activity[edit]

An editor recently added the following para:

High soil concentrations of inorganic nitrogen (ammonium and nitrate) inhibit degradation of nitrogen-rich organic matter (such as protein), while conversely, excess inorganic nitrogen can stimulate degradation of organic matter that is low in nitrogen.[1]

  1. ^ Sims, Gerald K; Wander, Michelle M (2002). "Proteolytic activity under nitrogen or sulfur limitation". Applied Soil Ecology. 19 (3): 217–221. doi:10.1016/S0929-1393(01)00192-5. ISSN 0929-1393. 

I am not convinced that the reference actually proves this statement. The paper is an old primary source and is making a specific point about regulation of proteolytic activity by N and S. It does not, as far as I can see, pass the bar for a reference for this statement. Either the statement needs a better - preferably more recent - reference, or it should be removed. JMWt (talk) 19:14, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I looked for refs - the relationship between inorganic N and organic matter breakdown is complicated. Having read the source, I don't think it is strong enough to support this statement. I have therefore removed the statement. JMWt (talk) 20:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

reverting language preferences[edit]

@William Avery: hard to see why this revision was necessary. Care to explain yourself? In my opinion, the language is fine either way around, so reverting seems rather like using a hammer to crack a nut. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Soil&curid=37738&diff=663375429&oldid=663375049 JMWt (talk) 07:58, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

The same could be said of the reversion by Firefly 1111. I changed myriad to innumerable, to hopefully prevent further to-ing and fro-ing. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 08:08, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
@PaleCloudedWhite: well I agree that to-ing and fro-ing is unnecessary. But also feel reverting for the sake of a single small word which might-or-might-not be to personal taste and then writing a rather aggressive ES which says it should be discussed on the talkpage is rather taking the biscuit. This page is horrible, far too long and needs a complete revision, particularly given much of the technical content is simply copied from a multitude of daughter pages. How a general reader is supposed to wade through this and feel informed rather than confused, I have no idea. Getting sassy about the use of the word 'of' is to ignore the wood and focus on the toothpicks. JMWt (talk) 08:16, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
I don't beleive it is normal idiomatic English to follow 'myriad' with 'of' unless it is preceded by an object (direct or indirect). William Avery (talk) 08:34, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
As the link the previous editor cited in the ES clearly shows, that is just a matter of opinion.

Recent criticism of the use of myriad as a noun, both in the plural form myriads and in the phrase a myriad of, seems to reflect a mistaken belief that the word was originally and is still properly only an adjective. As the entries here show, however, the noun is in fact the older form, dating to the 16th century. The noun myriad has appeared in the works of such writers as Milton (plural myriads) and Thoreau (a myriad of), and it continues to occur frequently in reputable English. There is no reason to avoid it.

Not liking language is not a reason to instantly revert something, particularly as we are operating here with various cultural versions of English.JMWt (talk) 08:51, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes it is: bold, revert, discuss, not bold, revert, revert, revert. William Avery (talk) 11:19, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
And I don't dispute it's used as a noun, merely whether it is proper to follow the singular 'myriad' with 'of' if not preceded by 'a' or 'the'. Compare other nouns of measure such as 'hundred' or 'thousand'. William Avery (talk) 11:26, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
There are a lot of good reasons to WP:ROWN. Repeating your opinion does not make the grammar point fact. JMWt (talk) 12:22, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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I have just added archive links to one external link on Soil. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

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checked. The link was to a website which listed the pdf, and was rotten. However the pdf still exists, so I have updated the ref. JMWt (talk) 08:40, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Things needed by this article[edit]

I am going to make a list of things needed to improve this article. Please feel free to edit my edit to add to this list:

Illustrations
In Overview, a photo of samples of sand, silt, clay and raw organic matter
In Structure, an illustration/photo showing the difference between an aggregate and a ped
In Structure, sketches of the various type of peds
In Clays, sketches of the structure of each type of clayZedshort (talk) 01:52, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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  • The second link is dead, so I deleted it (from 'Further reading'). The others are fine Alandmanson (talk) 19:44, 16 August 2016 (UTC)