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Ganguly's Original Birth Time[edit]

Sourav Ganguly's Birth Time is 11.45 am on 8th July,1972. © Indranil Dutta- https://www.facebook.com/indranildutta.6

Ganguly Bashers, Chappell Backers and Offensively Biased Cricinfo Editors[edit]

I think it's pretty clear that Ganguly haters and Chappell backers have invaded Ganguly's wiki profile, and I am with BlessingsBoy on this - we will hit you back on Greg Chappell's profile if this continues. It is clear that Ganguly's haters (who for some reason always seem to come from a particular part of India), including possibly some of Cricinfo's offensively biased writers and editors, have left their temporary mark on SCG's wiki. And we won't just do it to Chappell; we'll do it to all of them - Gilchrist, Flintoff, and the rest of the players who have unfairly spoken out against SCG in the past. pmarley2 6 Nov 2008


It is written that he was criticized was media for taking off his shirt in the final of the 2002 Natwest Trophy.This language seems quite biased.Taking off shirt can never be a matter of criticism,soccer player often do this.Someone might say that he was replying to andrew flintoff who has done the some.But how can a player be criticized if he celebrates his memorable win in an unique style. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishekitmbm (talkcontribs) 06:51, 3 May 2011 (UTC) abhishek (talk) 06:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC)abhishekitmbm

POV: MY favourite drink[edit]

It is possible that I am addicted to Banana juice. Lack of this drink may affect my performance —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.92.34.131 (talk) 13:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

POV: zimbabwe century[edit]

"Ganguly ground out a painfully slow century, against what is regarded as one of the weakest bowling attacks in international cricket"

while i think it is ok and fair to call zimbabwe one of the weakest bowling attacks - especially in conjunction with the phrase "regarded as"; it would be very value-loaded to use the term "painfully", which therefore is a NPOV violation. I therefore am changing it to "Ganuguly scored a century in 254 balls, which may be considered very slow by modern standards, against what is regarded as one of the weakest bowling attacks in international cricket". hope this is ok. Sam

Also changed the part in his biography which jumps straight from his 183 in taunton in the 99 WC to his being dropped cos of bad form in 2005... after all the small matter of 6 years, a world cup and two champions trophy final appearances, and about 10,000 internatioanl runs, cannot be ignored! - Sam

Another Ganguly[edit]

Say, wasn't there another Indian national cricket team player named Ganguly, who played during the 1970s and 80s? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:18, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

There are no other international cricketers by that name. Saurav Ganguly has an elder brother by the name Snehasish who was a decent first class cricketer. But he got nowhere near the national side. Can you tell anything more about the person you are looking for ? Tintin 21:24, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Nope, sorry, it's just a dim memory. Perhaps it was a different spelling. I was considering making Ganguly a disambig, and looking for names to disambig. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 21:37, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

ambidextrous[edit]

Is he actually ambidextrous ?? Just coz he bats left handed and bowls right handed, doesnt make it so ... ??

  • I agree. I've changed it. Thanks for spotting it. Stephen Turner 10:44, 30 September 2005 (UTC)


Succession box[edit]

Preceded by: Sachin Tendulkar Indian Test captains 2000/01 Succeeded by:

== Rahul Dravid'' ==


Isn t he the current test captain as in the Zimbabwe tour . I am editing this ... any objections people ?--Nuttysocrates 09:44, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

He was also captain for longer than that. That info box is misleading. - Greaser 05:24, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Please include, He is the third player of ODI cricket (after Tendulkar and Jayasurya)to complete the "triple" (10000runs, 100 wickets and 100 catches) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.200.35.12 (talk) 01:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Rewriting[edit]

Maybe we can make this article better by tabulating all the boquets and brickbats Ganguly has recd on and off the field --Nuttysocrates 22:03, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

pov[edit]

Hmm - isn't it a bit contradictory to in the same article refer to him as humble and shy but also temperamental and controversial? No evidence being cited either way this is not encyclopaedic, boys! Autumnleaf 23:00, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Agree and nor is it NPOV. IMHO, all such references to behavior do not add much to the article and can be removed safely. btw, the way you say "Boys" has given away your secret identity. You are Azhar!! --Gurubrahma 07:00, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Silly you!!! WRONG sex! ;o) Meanwhile I have entered the fray and done some tiny editing. Faintly hilarious double meaning was lurking - just look at my changes. Incidentally, the article looks fine and the NPOV should go, no? Autumnleaf 23:07, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
It still seems a bit POV to me, although I'm not familiar enough with the subject to know for sure what is universally accepted and what is disputed. Stephen Turner 08:40, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Removed passage[edit]

I removed this passage:

In ODIs, S C Ganguly made 22 centuries, out of which, INDIA has won 18 matches. If you compare with the other players in the world of Cricket, very few have this record.

and replaced it with this:

His number of centuries in ODIs is only exceeded by Sachin Tendulkar.

The reason I did this is that his number of centuries is superb, but his team's record when he gets a century is not that unusual: if a player gets a century in an ODI, usually his side wins. Even in a weak side, Brian Lara has 19 centuries, and the West Indies have won 16 of those. Sachin Tendulkar has 28 wins and one no result out of 38, which is slightly worse but not much. Aussies do even better, of course. Adam Gilchrist has 12 wins out of 12. Stephen Turner (Talk) 11:51, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Name Issue[edit]

Is his middle name Chandidas? As far as I know, Chandidas is the name of his father, and Bengalis do not have the tendency to include their father's name as middle name.

Cricinfo says Chandidas, at least. Stephen Turner (Talk) 15:20, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

You are right, Chandidas is his father's name. Look up his brother, Snehasish - there, too, his father's name is used as a middle name. Bengalis almost never write their patronymic as a middle name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.75.33 (talk) 13:51, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Please note that we, Bengalees, do not use our father's name as our middle name. Therefore it is only Saurav Ganguly & Snehasis Ganguly. Also , Saurav Ganguly lives in a place called Behala which is within postal & municipal limits of Kolkata.

  ----  Kalyan Kumar Roy  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.196.18 (talk) 18:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC) 

Many say his middle name is "Prince Charles" and "Charlatan" at times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.164.19.160 (talk) 17:34, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Issue with Chapel[edit]

Half a page to describe the spat Ganguly had with Greg Chapel! Isn't that overrated?

- well, considering that that spat may have led to the end of his career, i would consider it important.

- kyrsch.

Trying to get to NPOV[edit]

-->There's way too much on this article which doesnt meet wikipedia standards.

  ->'Ganguly's international cricket career could be bisected into 2 halves...' 

The section is too long for no good. It's almost a jab at Ganguly.

Well I couldnt stand it. The article for one of the most visited pages of a cricketer read like fanmail. So I have with whole lot of daring( maybe ts the five cups of coffee in me speaking!) removed a few passages & tried to bring it to NPOV. I havent removed any Data but have removed statements like "He has been credited in findiang many talented youngsters in the team", "His record in Test Cricket & ODI's is good" & "Ganguly is known for hitting big sixes". Such statements though appear to be true have no citation & are the reason for the neutrality dispute on this article. Hopefully my changes will be accepted. Srikeit 01:15, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Just a suggestion but maybe you should get rid of all the content which explains the downfall of Ganguly. It takes the article to a debatable stage which can be avoided. Providing content of his cricketting days as a player and then as a captain should be sufficient but you need to conjure a good ending just touching the surface of the present controversy he is in.
Works that need to be carried out:
  1. Needs a complete revamp. There is no continuous flow of matter.
  2. Need to avoid statements like this - He has also been credited with helping transform the Indian players into a vibrant team with an excellent team spirit.
  3. Not the least, the controversy he is at the moment
Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 12:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
I disagree, I think the ending of his captaincy and (perhaps) international career is very important. But it has to be written in a neutral way, and it appears to be impossible for most people to do that! Stephen Turner (Talk) 13:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
I agree that the article needs major cleanup, and also could do with some expansion. His cricketing career (the high points) seem to be described in a hurry (well, compared to the section on his downfall). His spat with Chappel is very important, still his achievements deserve a better treatment as well. I tried to expand his achievements but was foxed by how to put a good enough structure to it. Also the article is full of statements like "in the current series" or "in the last season". Such temporal statements should be replaced to something like "in the <seriesname> series". I changed some, but there may be more. --Soumyasch 17:57, 16 March 2006 (UTC)


Thanks Srikeit for removing statements like Ganguly has exceptional record as captain. While editing yesterday, I thought these opinion-expressing statements were contibuting to the non-neutrality of the article. But since almost all paras start with these and they are there for quite sometime now, I thought may be they were necessary to introduce the para. So instead of removing them, I ended up adding one such line!!! Its good to see someone else who thinks like that. I wont fall for such confusion again. Thanks for that. --Soumyasch 06:24, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Test Score[edit]

The number of runs scored by Ganguly in tests is not some 10221 but much rather 5221. His average is also 40.78 and not 58. He has taken 26 test wickets(not 25). Did the relevant editing. (Source Cricinfo.com) Hp filter 10:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)Gaurav Konar.

Removing NPOV tag[edit]

ganguly current test average is 43.58.Finally after a long time this article seems to confirm to NPOV. I have removed some of the subtle NPOV violations & now the article looks ready to lose the tag. What do you think?

Thanks

Flag of India.svgSrikeit(talk ¦ ) 01:04, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree, well done. Stephen Turner (Talk) 07:36, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

The International Career section (in biography), which speaks of his achevements, is very short compared to the Controversies. While I do not say that Controversies be pruned, I do think Intl Career seems as if rushed through and added as an afterthought. Ieeds to be expanded to include more of his achievements. Else the Biography tends to be bit negative. --Soumyasch 07:44, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the NPOV tag! Never thought this day would come for the Sourav Ganguly article! Anyway about Soumyasch's concerns I think what you say is true. The criticisms do outweigh the achievements by a bit, but that is not a strong enough topic for this article to continue deserving the tag. Although it would be very helpful if you or anybody else can add to the achievements. But be careful though, we do not want text added to balance NPOV to violate it again!
Thanks
Flag of India.svgSrikeit<spfeel "expandsect" needs to be put in International career section, for reasons explained above. --Soumyasch 12:05, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I have done it.

Thanks

Flag of India.svgSrikeit(talk ¦ ) 12:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Recent edits[edit]

Some recent edits have been, albeit informative, in violation of NPOV. I have done some cleanup of the section & looks like the POV issue has been solved. I hope these recent edits will not give this article the dreaded POV tag I have worked so hard to remove. *sweats & pants*

Thanks

Flag of India.svgSrikeit(talk ¦ ) 18:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Intl Career[edit]

Ganguly began his career in international cricket in 1992, where he was dropped from the team for his bad form. For another four years he struggled to come back into contention. Finally in 1996, Ganguly was given a place in the Test side which Ganguly capitalised upon & scored his first Test century on debut at the historic ground of Lords. He later proved to be a prolific one day run scorer and also a formidable and dependable test player.

I would say the italicized portions are not netral in point of view. And also regd the first italicized statement, it should not be said he was dropped because of bad for - he was just allowed to play in one match, in which he didn't score notably. But failure in one match cannot jusify lack of form. I would suggest the rewrite for these parts as follows:

Ganguly is god of international cricket — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.99.180.220 (talk) 08:04, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Sourav Ganguly made his international debut against Australia in India's tour of Australia in 1992. He didn't score much (can be replaced with his actual score) and was dropped from further matches. Four years later ("following a good domestic redord" can be added but I am not sure), he was recalled into the national side for a test series against England in England. He made his test debut at Lords, and scored a century in that match and repeated the feat in the match which followed. He was retained for the One day team and he went on become a player in both forms of the game'''

I am putting it up here and not on the main article because the issue is too sensitive. Its too tough staying objective when speaking of Sourav's achievements. Please transfer it to the article to replace the part in question, if you feel this is better.

--Soumyasch 18:24, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the NPOV violating edits. It feel it often happens that when you try to lessen the POV of flagrant NPOV violations, the end result also subtly violates NPOV. Anyway your reworded edit looks fine to me (except for a typo) & if you feel it should be posted, Be Bold! & post it. It has been written by you so the edit credit should go to you.

Thanks

Flag of India.svgSrikeit(talk ¦ ) 18:34, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. --Soumyasch 18:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


Hey, someone should add his feats against Pakistan in Toronto to the page. That was an important performance in the sense, it was then when Ganguly really made it to the same strata as the Tendulkars and the Kapil Devs.

I agree - i think it was a world record, wasn't it? 4 man of the matches in a row? it would be a significant highlight of his career

Recent addition of POV and OR[edit]

Ganguly was nick-named as the Prince of Kolkata by Geoffrey Boycott

Why was this removed. It is true?

however as critics rightly point out, Australia's bowling was not potent enough as they missed their two top bowlers Glenn McGrath and Brett Lee for that match.

It is deliberately draeing attention to one way of interpretation, thus not POV.

thanks to his deputy Rahul Dravid who scored an amazing 23% of the total runs made by India in those 21 wins

Thanks to? Its blatant POV!!

Sourav Ganguly's 10 year international career could be easily bisected into 2 halves, the pre and the post 2000 eras. The significance of the year 2000 lies in the fact that the ICC introduced the one bouncer per over rule in ODIs starting from that year. Sourav Ganguly who averaged 45.5 from 1996-2000 suddenly found himself at the receiving end of the bouncer rule as his average plunged to 34.9 between the 5 year period 2001-2005. Also, against Test playing nations(which included Zimbabwe and Bangladesh), his average in the period plunged further down to 30.66 and he could score only 6 centuries between 2001-2005, of which 3 centuries were against Kenya & 1 was against Namibia. This sudden drop in his ODI average(to 30.66) against Test playing nations after 2001 was clearly a result of the short pitch stuff he had to encounter from opposition bowlers.

Do I even need comment on this?

Its the perfect way to get NPOV tag slapped back on the article. --soumসৌমোyasch 08:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I dont see anything wrong, as long as it backed by statistics. And this fact is too imporatant to ignore, because it affected his career in a lot of way.

I disagree - to infer that these were the reasons for his drop of form would be an opinion - not a fact; the article is not just providing the facts but concluding from it. His fall in performance could have happened for any other reasons - captaincy, tough tours etc. therefore i still think it a blatant POV - Sam.

Addition of Section on MoM & MoS Awards[edit]

I wanted the below sections with the tables summarizing the MoM & MoS in Test and ODI cricket to be added to the main page

Added the MoS & MoM Awards section in SG's page Kalyan 19:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

There is a mistake in the MoM awards (Tests). Venue says - Kandy, Chennai. Kandy is not in Chennai for gods sake! Its in Sri Lanka.Victory247 21:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)Victory247

Thanks for pointing it out. i have corrected it. Kalyan 04:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

No Pic![edit]

This is a biography page with no pic!!! how funny? can anybody take the pain to add a nice pic of Ganguly

Soumyakanti 19:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Even I think a picture is necessary. If a free image is hard to come by, a fair use image of a cap from tv broadcast may be used. --soumtalk 22:09, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Tipped to Be Captain[edit]

Is that needed? that he might become the skipper after the disastrous world cup 122.162.58.39 17:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


Haven't got a picture of ganguly. can i add one?

cheers, pic added[edit]

Licenced pic from Wiki coomons added. yay

Blessingsboy 23:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

removing cricinfo opinion[edit]

Cricinfo staff should understand that they don't own wikipedia and hence should not be a ganguly basher.

Ganguly was dropped not only because of poor form, but because More, Chappell and their fans did not wanted a captain they cannot dominate

--Blessingsboy 20:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup: Things to be done[edit]

  • The various sections need to be reorganized and rewritten. Right now, it is completely statistical oriented, having primary sections for Centuries, Statistics, Records. The "international career" is heavily loaded with almost all the text is filled in one single section, which needs to rewritten in its entirety.
  • Initial/Early life section is required to cover his childhood cricket playing/learning/influences
  • Domestic career
  • International career - Evenly distributed right from Debut till 2007 world cup, having appropriate subsections.(might need to be split into couple of sections)
  • Personal life and hobbies.
  • Controversy
  • Statistics - Centuries, records, captaincy records etc.
  • Man of the matches/ Man of the series etc.
  • Appropriate templates such as Indian captaincy template, various world cup squads etc.

Having a picture in the infobox is an advantage in this article. Once all these major cleanup activities are done, the article can be considered for moving towards peer review. - KNM Talk 01:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Chappelish version[edit]

Chappell fans/ Ganguly haters should know that their opinion is unwanted in this article. If you continue to spam, we will spam back the Greg Chappell article.

We are not removing the information about ganguly's poor form and lack of fitness but you should know, this is not an article where you can expres your hatred for Ganguly. An enclyclopedia article should not be a place of critical discussion.

Blnguyen, you are the lead of the spammers. Since you are from Adeleide, its quite understandable. We forgive you. Next time you revert back to your Chappellish-version, we will send a request to IP ban you. This is your final warning.

Blessingsboy 22:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Dear Blessingboy: Few things. There is no Chappelish version or something like that here. Apparently, there are no spammers here. Please assume good faith on other editors, and look forward to improvise the article.
Statements such as "we will spam back the Greg Chappell article" are uncalled for. No one is allowed to disrupt the Wikipedia to prove a point. Let us keep in mind, Wikipedia is not a battleground.
Last but not the least, please refrain from making personal attacks, like you have made above by calling names such as "lead of the spammers". Personal attacks are harmful for the project.
Coming back to the topic, the article needs much much more constructive work, in fact almost-complete rewrite. I have proposed some points above, as part of the major cleanup. If you have inputs / feedback on that please provide. We will need to work on those items one after the other, to bring the article into a good shape. Cheers, - KNM Talk 23:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

"Painfully slow"[edit]

Painfully slow means dreadfully slow, not "with much difficulty". 59.93.244.236 11:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 19:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Ganguly lives in a Barista?[edit]

You mean the coffee shop? How can someone live in a Barista? Who wrote this crap? Is he out of his mind? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.188.253.116 (talk) 11:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

ODI Records[edit]

Some of them are quite pedantic ex. Second highest ODI runs scorer for India (in a calendar year) and should be deleted. Does anyone disagree?Abeer.ag (talk) 17:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC) God of international cricket — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.99.180.220 (talk) 08:08, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Retirement[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}}Sourav Ganguly said on Tuesday 7th October 2008 that he would retire from international cricket at the end of the upcoming four-Test series against Australia. "Before I leave, I have to make an announcement. This is going to be my last series. I have decided to quit. These four Tests are going to be my last," said Ganguly, winding up a routine press conference on Tuesday. "I have spoken to my teammates that these four Tests would be my last matches. Thanks for all the support, hopefully I will go out on a winning note," said the left-hander. Arunkris (talk) 12:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

 Done by Burmesedays--Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 17:02, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Instead of retirement it should be retirement from international cricket to be precise.As he has played 3 season of IPL and all set to play in season 4.

Farewell Dada[edit]

Someone please clean up this article. A reqest frm a DADA fan. Please...--Abhishek Jacob (talk) 17:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Nicknames[edit]

Can someone add the nicknames of ganguly on his wiki page? (Similar to the nicknames added on Sachin Tendulkar's page). I am not able to edit that page. His nicknames are Dada, Prince of Kolkata, Bengal Tiger, Mahaharaja... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nachiketdeo (talkcontribs) 22:06, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

 Done by Nachiket 23:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

minor edit on stats[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} he is now the 4th highest te not the 5th; he went past vengsarkar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.148.138 (talk) 08:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

 Done Confirmed by reference. Clark89 (talk) 04:08, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio?[edit]

I have removed a significant chunk of the article that appears to be copied from here. At the moment I cannot ascertain who wrote it first, them or us, but in the mean time it is best to keep it off the article. Feel free to re-add once the origin of the text is specified. SGGH speak! 12:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

The net article is date 2007. Check the 2006 archives. They copied off WP. YellowMonkey (click here to chose Australia's next top model!) 01:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Broken Link : Cricinfo link in External Links section[edit]

First link in the section which points to Sourav Ganguly's Cricinfo profile is broken. Correct link is http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/28779.html -Veetrag (talk) 23:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Retirement from International Cricket[edit]

Just reading this section makes me think this wikipedia article is manipulated by Ganguly bashers. He had a very good farewell, but this section of the article does not refelct that, rather deals with selective media 'rumors'. He made 87 and 0 in his last test and both should be mentioned. He made good contributions with bat in the series and the average was good. He made a century, his second against Australia. And he was well honored by the teammates, the administrators and the media.

EZoha (talk) 11:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

You're right that the section does seem biased, mentioning only his duck as controversy about his selection. It's worth noting that he scored 324 runs at 54 in the four match series. For anyone improving the article in future, this link looks useful. Nev1 (talk) 11:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Sourav Chandidas Ganguly[edit]

Unlike other Indian linguistic groups it is not a tradition among Bengali Hindus to include father's name in their own name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.194.224.103 (talk) 08:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Remove Chandidas from Sourav Ganguly's name[edit]

Unlike other Indian linguistic groups it is not a tradition among Bengali Hindus to include father's name in their own name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Its kaal (talkcontribs) 06:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Please remove 'Chandidas' from Saurav Ganguly's name. Saurav is a Bengali; we Bengalis do not use the father's name as our middle name. Anindita (talk) 19:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

IPL highest score correction[edit]

On the main page in yhe part "2007 World Cup and aftermath" it is mentioned that ganguly's heighest score in the first season of IPL was 51. However it was 91 against 'Deccan Chargers Hyderabad' and second heighest score was 86 against 'Kings11Punjab' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.238.70.179 (talk) 10:29, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. --Jpeeling (talk  contribs) 19:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Last century correction[edit]

his last test century was against Australia in Mohali and not in Bangalore as stated in the write-up. ' Param Bindra —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.143.81.76 (talk) 19:41, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. --Jpeeling (talk  contribs) 19:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Sourav Ganguly/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

After a initial read through, I have noticed a few things, but overall, a very good, informative article. I will add my detailed review once I have it completed. Reviewer: Neonblak talk - 03:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Lead section
    • Check all the links for re-directs, there are several instances throughout the article.
    • Ensure non-breaking spaces are used when appropriate, example "131 runs", WP:NBSP.
    • "In 2000, after match fixing scandals rocked cricket, Ganguly was made the captain of the Indian cricket team." - This, along with the reference in the main body, is unclear to me. I think it means that the previous Captain resigned due to his involvment in match fixing? Maybe "Due to match-fixing scandals in 2000, Indian Captain, Tendulkar, resigned his position, and Ganguly was promoted from Vice-Captain as his replacement"?
    • "However, he soon received media criticism after an unsuccessful stint for county side". - there is a double space before county cricket. Does this mean he played for the National and County teams?
    • "He lead led India into the 2003 Cricket World Cup final; however, they were defeated by Australia."
    • "He made a comeback to the national side in 2006 and had successful batting displays." - Maybe "He returned to the National team in 2006, and had successful batting displays."?
    • "Around the same time he got involved in a rift with then Indian team coach Greg Chappell, because of mutual misunderstandings between them." - Maybe "Around this time, he became involved in a dispute with Indian team coach Greg Chappell over several misunderstandings"?
    • "Ganguly was again dropped, before being selected for an unsuccessfully 2007 Cricket World Cup campaign." - Maybe "Due to this rift, Ganguly was again dropped from the team, however he was selected to play in the 2007 Cricket World Cup."?
    • "The same year, he announced his retirement from cricket, after a home Test series against Australia." - Maybe "The same year, after a home Test series against Australia, he announced his retirement from cricket."
    • "After Following his retirement, Ganguly continued to play for the Bengal team...".
    • "He is India's most successful Test captain to date, winning 21 tests out of 49 tests that he had captained." - Maybe "He is India's most successful Test Captin to-date, winning 21 of 49 Tests." Captain and tests were redundant, also capitolize Captain and Tests as they have been in the rest of the article.
      • Corrected. The redirect is left as I need to find what tool I can use for it as wiki-ed doesnot work for me. Also, the lead is tweaked a little as per Monkey's suggestion.--Legolas (talk2me) 08:18, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
  • 1972–1989: Early life and introduction to cricket
    • "Since the favourite sport for the inhabitants of Kolkata was the game of football,..." - For readers that don't know, I would link "football" to "Association football".
    • "After he scored a century against the Orissa..." - century is not a well-known term, I would link it to "Century (cricket)".
    • "One anecdote was that during a tour with a junior team, it was Ganguly's turn to be the twelfth man, a substitute who can only perform the tasks of fielding and whose role is usually to raise morale by supporting the players and organising their spare equipment and drinks, as well as ferrying messages from the dressing room to the ground. Ganguly purportedly refused to do such tasks as he considered it beneath his social status to assist his teammates in such a way." - Maybe "While touring with a junior team, Ganguly refused his turn as the twelth man as he reportedly felt that the duties involved, which included organising equipment and drinks for the players, and delivering messages, were beneath his social status."
    • "However, his playmanship gave him a chance to make his first-class cricket debut for Bengal, the same year that his brother was dropped from the team." - Should include the year to make things clear.
  • 1990–1996: Career beginning and debut success
    • "It was rumored that Ganguly refused to carry drinks for his teammates commenting that it was not his job to do so, later denied by him. Consequently, he was removed from the team." - comma needed after "teammates".
    • "Following an innings of 171 in the 1995–96 Duleep Trophy, he was recalled for national tour of England in 1996, in the middle of intense media scrutiny." - Maybe "Following an innings of 171 in the 1995–96 Duleep Trophy, he was recalled to the National team for a tour of England in 1996,..."
    • "India were not required to bat in the second innings, as the match ended in a tame draw." - Maybe "India was not required to bat in the second innings due to the match ending in a draw."
  • 1997–1999: Marriage, Opening in ODIs and World Cup '99
    • "In 1997 Ganguly scored his maiden ODI century by hitting 113..." - comma needed after 1997.
    • bowling should be linked, first appearance in the article. Also, as someone not familiar with cricket nomenclature, what does "5/16 off 10 overs" mean?
    • "In January 1998, in the final of the Independence Cup at Dhaka he scored 124 against Pakistan, as India successfully chased down 315 off 48 overs, winning the Man of the match award." - Maybe "During the final of the Independence Cup at Dhaka in January 1998, India successfully chased down 315 off 48 overs, and Ganguly won the Man of the Match award".
  • 2000–2005: Ascension to captaincy and accolades
    • "He scored further two centuries but his second one scored in the final, was in vain as New Zealand won by four wickets." - Maybe "He scored two centirues, including one in the final; however, New Zealand still won by four wickets."
  • 2006–2007: Comeback and rift with Greg Chappell
    • "During his first Test innings since his comeback, against South Africa in Johannesburg, he scored 51, resulting in India winning a Test match in South Africa for the first time." - Maybe "During his first Test innings since his comeback, against South Africa in Johannesburg, his score of 51 helped India to victory, marking the first Test match win for the team in South Africa."
    • "Consequently, due to his poor form and differences with the coach he was dropped as the captain and the team. Dravid took his place as teh new captain." - Maybe "Consequently, due to his poor form and differences with the coach, Ganguly was dropped as the captain of the team, with Dravid taking his place."
    • "He was also the fifth highest rungetter in 2007..." - is rungetter a proper term for this? maybe run producer?
  • "2008–present: Kolkata Knight Riders and retirement"
    • "Playing in Mohali in the second Test of the series, Ganguly scored his final Test century. In the final match, with India needing one wicket to secure a victory, the Indian captain, Mahendra Singh Dhoni, allowed Ganguly to lead the side in the field one last time." - clunky, maybe "While playing the second Test match of a series in Mohali, Ganguly scored his final test century. In the final match, with India needing one wicket to secure a victory, the Indian Captain, Mehndra Singh Dhoni, allowed Ganguly to lead the side in the field one last time." Are there dates for this series? Did India get the victory?
      • Done all. —Aaroncrick (talk) 06:21, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
        • Tweaked to include info from Monkey about Tendulkar's health being main reason for captaincy loss. --Legolas (talk2me) 09:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Legacy
    • "...having amassed the highest number of century partnerships (26) for the first wicket." - a non-breaking space bewtween partnerships and (26).
    • "Ganguly believed that his legacy as a captain was that her he was able to build a porper proper Indian team. He added,..."
    • "Later he explained that being at a receiving end of a raw deal that threatened to ruin his international cricket career,..." is there better way to say "raw deal", too informal unless it is an actual quote, then it needs to be written as so.
  • In General
    • Needs persondata. see: WP:PERSONDATA
    • Fix all the re-direct issues
    • Add non breaking spaces where appropriate

Other than that, it looks like the pictures (including alt text), references, layout are all properly done. Again, very informative, comprehensive article. I look forward to passing this when these issues have been addressed.Neonblak talk - 05:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I didn't bother to formally object to this article when it was first nominated; because GAN queue can take around 2 months, it was pointless to fail it in case the article was fixed during that time, so as to not make them go back to the end of the line, but this article isn't really comprehensiveness, and is quite pro-Ganguly in its POV.
      • WRT Chappell v Gangu, he was dropped and brought back 3-4 times in a few months and there were backflips, but not explained.
        • Unnecessary for bio, there is a separate article for the debate.
      • When he was captain, India lost to Australia in about 5-6 finals and didn't win any IIRC, and lost more than 75% of their ODI finals and Ganguly/India was criticised a lot
        • Again, inserting criticism just for the sake of it, please point sources rather than your own assumption.
          • It's all over Cricinfo, it is well known
      • 2003 tour of Australia isn't explained that much
        • Why does everything need to be about Australia?
          • Because before that India alaways lost badly in Australia and it was regarded as a watershed when they drew the Tests
            • Again, criticism not associated with the bio in discussion.
      • AScension to the captaincy isn't explained properly, so the reader may think that the former captain was a match-fixer, but he wasn't it was just that Tendulkar had a bad run and resigned, and at the same time other players were banned for match-fixing
        • This can be handled.
      • 2001 v Australia not explained. India/Gang was heavily criticised after the first Test, then turned it around. Ganguly also took pride is pissing off Steve Waugh, and then gave the finger to a bunch of Australian supporters
        • WP:FANCRUFT
          • It is not fancruft, as he was always trying to beat them
            • Giving finger to spectators is indeed FANCRUFT.
      • In 2003 he was out 3-4 times in a row due to short ball
        • Can be included.
      • India's away record gradually improved under Ganguly
        • I knew this, but couldnot find any book explaining it.
      • He was also criticised a lot for being politically manipulative, not just by Chappell, but others. And was known for supporting angry young men, valueing potentially loose cannons, confrontation, over steady/dour performers
        • No, that was part of his legacy for putting in front the youngsters, as in India, general preference always fall on same old arthritic players.
      • At the moment the article only talks about him making the team stand up for themselves/more aggressive, without explaining that at the same time they were also not being disciplined about it, but sometimes just being confrontational
        • Can be included.
      • In 2001, in RSA the whole team got hauled up and sanctioned by the match referee, and then they kicked the referee out of the stadium. Under Ganguly, India's players got disciplined by the match referee, and Ganguly championed belligerent players
        • Why is this exactly needed?
          • Ganguly was sanctioned for failing to control his players
            • OK I'll try to search info regarding this.
      • Ganguly was often accused of faking injuries and withdrawing from matches when he didn't get what he wanted, and it wasn't only Chappell that said this, I once read an In-deoth TOI analyis of this, which took up 2-3 whole broadsheet pages.
        • This is already included in the playing style. --Legolas (talk2me) 08:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Generally, Ganguly had very long career, one of the most prolific run-scoring players in history, as there are so many matches nowadays, and he was always involved in fights with everyone, he was one of the most polarising figures in world cricket, so the article has to be very long to even cover all these points. At the moment, some years have almost nothing on the results` YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 07:55, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I find it extremely unlikely that you found issues with the article and got the GAN to point them out, when you could have done it before also. I never saw you pointing out anything to either me or Aaron. Makes me question the integrity of your sudden outburst. Overall, I completely disagree that the article is pro-Ganguly. I donot believe that criticism should be included against every appreaciation and I believe in respecting WP:BASICHUMANDIGNITY, rather than going into tabloidy details about everything. --Legolas (talk2me) 08:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I already told you on Aaron's talk and you saw it. I'm not a mug. I'm used to this kind of thing on Indian stuff and FAs too. I'm not stupid YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Im not implying anything of that sort. You have promoted a number of articles for GA and FA and would know better, however I find it bad faith that you knew that some info was missing, and didn't point it out before, rather than now? The GAR didnot start the day after its nomination. I won't stretch this further and will try to incorporate some of the info that you pointed. Thank you for your help. --Legolas (talk2me) 08:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I did point it out on Aaron's talk page and you responded to it, and there isn't a need to go through everything that is missing, because most things are missing. His debut series is mentioned, four Tests against Sri Lanka are mentioned, 1 sentence on 5 Tests against Aus/RSA mentioned. He captained for 49 Tests out of 113. 40% of Tests. But only two sentences of the article about his contributions as a player. One about his WC stats, the other just says he declined without giving details. 5 years and there are only two sentences on actual play, but much more on T20. I could have just failed it immediately and then you would have had to fix it and wait in a queue for a long time from the back again, when you could have worked on it when it was in the queue, but didn't. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 08:43, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I have to say that I disagree with you completely that each and every thing doesnot need to be in the article as this is a WP:BIOGRAPHY, not List of awards and achievements by Sourav Ganguly, where such info is appropriate. You may find such fancrufty additions amusing, however I find it WP:UNDUE and in-world. I will see which info can be added and reject others, again my point is not that. In Aaron's talk you just mentioned that the article is pro-Ganguly, which I have disagreed before also. --Legolas (talk2me) 08:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Comments from —SpacemanSpiff

I told Aaron I was going to post this on his talk page over the weekend (didn't expect the review to start so soon!), but as the review has started, I'll post here:

  • 1990-96 is a too heavy on the two Tests. A little less info on those Tests and a bit more on the FC record would be appropriate.
    • Ummm.. is it really UNDUE? Doesnot developing the background of his debut necessiate an entry? *confused* --Legolas (talk2me) 09:33, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
    • "...handing England a 1–0 series victory, despite Ganguly scoring 48 in the second innings.[21][22]" - [21] is a scorecard, I don't know how [22] reads, but in reality, SRT was the top scorer in both innings, so a judgment of "despite Ganguly.." is not correct.
      •  DoneYou're correct. The book says TEndulkar's innings, an overlook by me.
  • 1997-99: The losses could be linked to 1999_Cricket_World_Cup#Group_A_Results and the sentences trimmed to focus on Ganguly's performance instead.
    • The Nagma bit needs a better source; there's a lot of extra related information in that source that's not summed up in the sentence. In addition, that source itself doesn't appear credible (although it's TOI, that news piece was not even copy-edited)
  • 2000-05 needs a title tweak: if it was "accolades" then the next section shouldn't be "comeback"
    • The section needs some expansion on the B-G Trophy, it's one of the most reviewed bilateral series for India and Ganguly's behavior on and by the field received wide coverage. Second Test, 2000–01 Border-Gavaskar Trophy also needs to be linked to discuss the manner of ending the 16-win run.
    • Likewise the 2003 B-G Trophy needs some more attention as it was again one of India's most reviewed, and the only time India came back from Australia with the B-G Trophy. The Pakistan series can be skipped since Ganguly captained only one Test.
    • Also, there's really no mention of his successful relationship with John Wright, which was also pretty well reviewed in contemporary times, especially the bit about how their contrasting styles combined to produce the good team.
      •  DoneI have the info, thought that it would deviate too much. Well I'll add it. :) --Legolas (talk2me) 09:13, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Legacy, something other than Steve Waugh's quote should end the article. They both hated each other's guts and neither's opinion should be the final opinion of the other.
    • I strongly support your point as I believe criticism from peers is an extreme case of the violation of WP:NPOV. --Legolas (talk2me)

Good work! cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 09:03, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

  • I am ready to pass this article, but it was pointed out in the discussion above that his coaching style, while good for nuturing his players' aggressiveness, he didn't appear to set limits on this, however, allowing for confrontational behavior. I believe the article to be non-biased, but if this two-sided coaching legacy is true, it would be a great addition, solidifying comprehensiveness. I fixed the re-directs, non-breaking spaces, and everything else is up to snuff in my opinion. I would feel comfortable if that last issue was addressed though.Neonblak talk - 06:46, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Mike_Denness_and_Indian_cricket_team_incident Here we are. In one match, he got a suspended ban, and so did 5 other players in the team (more than half the team)
  • Banned for 6 ODIs in 2005 due to slow over rates
  • Some of the key milestones on his cricinfo profile are missing
  • fight with chappell in wrong order. He went out of form, had a fight, then was dropped, then came back after the others failed. At the moment the fight is 4th in the article instead of 2nd
  • Article about Ganguly promoting angry players and confrontation [1]

YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 04:57, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

  • If there is information that is misplaced, that would have to be addressed. I agreed with you above on his coaching legacy, and I don't think much has be included/re-written in order solved these issues. But, like it was pointed out above, for GA purposes, each incident does not have to be included (good or bad) to make it comprehensive.Neonblak talk - 06:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
    • Please give me one day. Alongwith Monkey's sources, I found a para in one of the bios, where this issue is addressed. Would be good addition. --Legolas (talk2me) 09:32, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
      • I have added the material regarding the negative feedback on his coaching and mentoring styles. I believe the section addresses the issues and is properly balanced now. --Legolas (talk2me) 09:41, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Looks like you missed an italic after the newpaper name before the quote.
  • Last issue, in response to Monkey above, let me set a general timeline in regards to his time with the India National Team. Let me know if I am reading this correctly: 1992 (debut with India, then dropped immediately), 1996 (back with India, first Test matches, 2000 (gained captaincy), 2005 (dropped from team), 2006 (comeback, not clear if he was renamed Captain), 2006? (loses Captaincy over Chappell incident, not clear if he was dropped from team as well), 2007 (recalled to team), 2007 (left team), 2008 (Tests with India team), 2008 (retires). Dropped from team: 3 times (if you count the chappell incident), left team once, and retired.Neonblak talk - 14:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
The timeline is all in Chappell Ganguly controversy. He had a fight then was dumped, and then was called back after the newbies struggled. He wasn't dropped and then came back and hassled Chappell YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 03:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
That article is just an epitome of unverified content added randomly. --Legolas (talk2me) 03:56, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
It's still in the right order, unlike the Ganguly article YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 04:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
WP:VERIFIABILITY. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:07, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Well, you can be arrogant all you want, but your ref contradicts what you say YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 04:08, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
You pointed out a practically unreferenced article. Just *dead* :) :) --Legolas (talk2me) 04:09, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Read your cite. It is date in 2007 and talks about something two years earlier. This article lists the fight after his recall YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 04:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
*I'm Confused* Why is that a problem? Anyways there are other sources supporting it. Can you please state what contradiction you find in the para? If you think that you can add something that will make it better, then please do it. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
??? Me? No I'm not confused. You can call me names and mock me if you want. Putting it out of order can confuse readers into thinking that after being recalled he may have then started to fight with Chappell, perhaps to spite him, instead of the other way around; that there was a fight and then he got dropped (possibly as a result) YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 04:29, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, your Bose book cites an ISBN that leads to this book But you cite a page in the 280s, but there is a glossary there and the main prose is already done. Also, the Tiwari quote is from a 2005 book, but Ganguly didn't take his 100th catch until 2007 [2] YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 04:29, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not saying you are confused, I'm saying that what you pointed out, confused me. Hence I asked you to state what is the correct order that you think? You can actually rearrange that section if you feel the order is misleading the readers. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:34, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Moved to YM's talk page as it is getting cluttered here. --Legolas (talk2me) 04:41, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
I think I got what YM is saying and have re-arranged the section so that it now states the dispute first, following which Ganguly was removed from captaincy. --Legolas (talk2me) 05:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Good work by all involved, I believe this now meets all the critera for GA status. It is reasonable well written and conforms with WP:MOS; factually acurate and completely referenced with no original research; broad in its coverage, neutral, and stable; images conform and are relevant to the article. Thanks again for everyone's hard work, and spirit; that's what makes WP great.Neonblak talk - 06:06, 12 February 2010 (UTC)


(talkcontribs) 21:13, 15 March 2010 (UTC) 
What is it that's exactly bothering you? --Legolas (talk2me) 06:21, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Ganguly is the sixth best batsman in ODI according to wisden[edit]

According to Wisden Sourav Ganguly is the sixth best batsman in ODI after Viv Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara, Dean Jones, Michael Bevan. When I tried to add this my edit was undone by someone... Why??? Sachin is rated second and his page reads it so. EVen being sixth in all time greatests is an achievement. Why shouldn't this thing be highlighted in Sourav Ganguly's page.... Nitish.game (talk) 19:27, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

How to insert Ganguly's T20 and IPL record[edit]

Ganguly's IPL and T20 record should be there. IPL is the only big and famous tournament he is playing right now, so there should be Ganguly's T20 and IPL stats. but when I tried to insert the stats its not taking the fifth column...Why? Nitish.game (talk) 14:46, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

ODI Records[edit]

  • Sourav Ganguly is the only player to win four consecutive Man-of-the-Match awards in ODIs. He did it against Pakistan in Toronto.He won the Man of the series also.
  • Sourav Ganguly together with Rahul Dravid scored 318 (2nd wicket) vs Sri Lanka in 1999.This is the highest partnership in World cup.
  • Sourav Ganguly made a mammoth 183 against Sri Lanka in World Cup 1999, which, at that time, was the Highest ODI Score by an Indian, beating Kapil Dev's Record of 175*.
  • Sourav Ganguly is one of the three cricketers in the World to score more than 10,000 runs and took more than 100 wickets and 100 catches respectively in one days.The other being Sanath Jayasuriya and Sachin Tendulkar.
  • Sourav Ganguly scored 22 centuries in ODI which is the second highest as an Indian and Fourth highest in the World.
  • Sourav Ganguly is one of the 3 Indian Batsman (and 4rth in the world) to score more than 10,000 runs in ODI.

Test Records[edit]

  • Sourav Ganguly's innings are now the highest ever by an Indian left-hander. He is the second left-hander to register a double hundered in Test Cricket.
  • Saurav Ganguly is now the seventh left hander to post an innings of 200-plugs against Pakistan, joining Garry Sobers (West Indies), Mark Taylor (A), Graham Yallop (A), Kumar Sangakkara (SL) and Brain Lara (WI).
  • Saurav Ganguly scored a Century on Debut at Lords in 1996, and went on to score a century in the very next match as well.

Please insert the above personal record section for sourav ganguly.

Edit request from 203.191.35.22, 9 June 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} "please change meaning of maharaj to king because in bengali it means king and not prince"

203.191.35.22 (talk) 12:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

 Done. click here to too see the difference. Arjuncodename024 12:39, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Clarification of unsupported gossips[edit]

  • Why is the Nagma Episode finished with a suspicious comment "something he denied"?
  • What was Nagma's point of view? Did she denied also?
  • Whether it was a mere gossip of tabloids/news paper or attached with firm evidences?
  • Why did the citation of this relationship didn't last long even in peoples gossip?
  • Wasn't the reporting too murky in all sense and unbelievable?
  • Which front-line News Paper seriously covered it? Which credible national/regional media aired this story? As far as I know there was no one to give this news any importance. For a scandal of this level isn't it quite unexpected??
  • And whether the source of informations were entirely few rubbish online Gossip sites and/or those dirty popularity seeking authors making living by exploiting celebrities.
  • For any scandal like this a national news paper is a better credible source than any book. Why link of a related article from any national news paper is not given instead?

This things needs to be clarified before bringing a gentlemen into disrepute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.201.106.164 (talk) 06:05, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Please don't use unneeded spaces as this breaks the Wiki-formatting. --Legolas (talk2me) 06:22, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh[edit]

It has been discovered that this book:

  • Gupta, Om. Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Gyan Publishing House, 2006. ISBN 8182053897, 9788182053892.

Contains significant amounts of material plagiarized from Wikipedia articles. (Some other books from the same publisher also have this problem). There is no practical way of determining which material came from Wikipedia, and which came from other sources. Further, widespread plagiarism is an indication of poor scholarship. For those reasons, and according to Wikipedia policy, WP:CIRCULAR, I will deleting all citations to the book. However I will not delete the material that cites it, as there's no indication that the material is inaccurate. For more background, see WP:RSN#Circular references: Gyan Publishing and ISHA Books, or the archive after it goes there.   Will Beback  talk  22:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Skmdazam, 11 January 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} Saurav Ganguly : change birth year to 1973 from 1900 source: http://www.souravganguly.net/biography.htm

Skmdazam (talk) 19:15, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Cricinfo and CricketArchive.com both say 1973, why should souravganguly.net (which is unofficial) take precedent? Nev1 (talk) 19:34, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I concur with Nev1; the two sources xe mentions meet Wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sources, while Skmdazam's does not. If there is a reliable source that indicates 1973, then we can list both. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 59.93.197.2, 9 May 2011[edit]

Currently he is in Pune Warriors squad, but before he was in Kolkata Knight Riders (2008-2010) squad. It should be mentioned in the v.d.e section.

59.93.197.2 (talk) 17:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Not done: this is already mentioned in the article. If by "v.d.e section" you mean one of the navboxes at the bottom of the article, I don't see where that information would fit in any of them. — Bility (talk) 18:25, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

IPL stats[edit]

IPL is becoming a well known and accepted by all cricketing body officials tournament.Its been influential for every form of cricket.Given that first class stats are added in any cricketer's page,IPL's stats must not be considered as untouchable!!! --abhishek (talk) 10:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

We donot give excessive emphasis on any particular tournament and so the page doesnot reflect Ganguly's IPL match scores as his only credentials. As for IPL becoming influential, that is your POV without any source. Unacceptable, and I strongly suggest you read WP:UNDUE. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Ganguly played 41 IPL matches, about 6% of his career. Including the stats on that competition alone inflates the importance of it way beyond proportion. Nev1 (talk) 11:10, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
That doesnot virtually guarantee a separate section with match-by-match analysis, runs and a table being added in the article. As I said, WP:UNDUE plays a strong point here. We should discourage people from turning an article into those found probably in blogs, fansites etc. The 2008-present section talks about the IPL and KKR appointment. Some of those statistics can be included as a part of the prose there and anybody with proper sourcing is welcome to do it. Case in point here would also be the Ganguly Chappell controversy. Although it has its own article, a part of it in brevity is included here, but not a case-by-case, answer-upon-answer of the throwbacks between the two. Third party notability gives emphasis on it more. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:17, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

All stats have been well verified and referenced as well--abhishek (talk) 11:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

They may be correct, but that's not the point. The point is they are simply not important enough to include in the article as it places undue emphasis on the IPL. Nev1 (talk) 11:27, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict)You completely missed my point. I never said that unsourced content has been added. I have issue with the undue importance being given here in his biography. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Just checked wayne rooney and Cristiano Ronaldo page..amazed to see club stats there also year by year,club by club,league by league have been mentioned well.IPL has same format as EPL.Hope you wouldn't deny this.So what is the point for not adding club stats for their counterparts in cricket!!!!--abhishek (talk) 11:37, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

What happens on those articles does not effect this one. Adding statistics for a single domestic competition is completely out of proportion. Nev1 (talk) 11:39, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Those two articles are the definition of WP:UNDUE. And just so you know, we donot encourage WP:WAX here. Just because one article has it, that doesn't mean that others will have it too. Guidelines are pretty important and I donot understand why you aren't reading them instead of asking the same question. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

How exactly is this true?Tournament must not be considered as being domestic,national,international.Though it should be considered according to its influence on sport itself.If we are talking about Sport and sportsperson then how most influencing tournament's stats(specially EPL) can be kept away.95% time there is club football only.I am not being biased or conflicting WP:UNDUE in mentioning that IPL is doing same to cricket.--abhishek (talk) 11:56, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Maybe you missed what I said earlier, but Ganguly played about 6% of his matches in the IPL, a tiny proportion of his career and if you factor in the hours spent playing cricket it diminishes even further. As I said, adding stats for a single domestic tournament in the context of Ganguly's entire career is skewed. Nev1 (talk) 12:06, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I've read that.But tell me what if a player has played 95% time test and only 5% time ODI.Would you argue that his ODI stats would not be included for the sake of minority!!!!Its game format which matters not % days or time.--abhishek (talk) 12:12, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I would say that including his ODI stats but not his Test figures would be ridiculous, which is analogous to what you are suggesting should be done here. Nev1 (talk) 12:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Not saying to include his IPL stats and omit ODIs and tests.Just mentioning that IPL stats must be included specially for a cricketer who has had Captain's cap twice and whose IPL carers spans for 4 years.Favors the same for other cricketers.--abhishek (talk) 12:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Your actions do not match your claims; you added a stats table on the IPL to an article without any such tables at all, thereby placing all the emphasis on one domestic T20 competition. That is not a situation that is sustainable. Nev1 (talk) 12:33, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
All the runs and wickets of test and ODI has mentioned well in personal Information section.It is the most important aspect of his career.But certainly IPL is not worth missing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishekitmbm (talkcontribs) 12:41, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Then add a sentence in the appropriate place about how many runs he scored. The format you chose was inappropriate. Nev1 (talk) 12:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Using this and this as sources, how about something along the lines of

In 40 matches for the Kolkata Knight Riders Ganguly scored 1,031 runs and took 8 wickets.

It could go at the end of the 2008–present: Kolkata Knight Riders, retirement and come back in IPL section and summarises things without the sprawling table which highlighted a minority of Ganguly's career. Nev1 (talk) 13:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes I agree with Nev1's suggestions that something along the lines of what he quoted is completely plausible and can surely be included in the said section. Abhishekitmbm, you are still not clear about issues of undue importance given and why we are opposing your idea of adding a table. I hope you went through WP:UNDUE thoroughly. — Legolas (talk2me) 13:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
I am not adhering to adding the table.My only point is not to ignore significant amount of career time of Ganguly.In addition to what Nev1 says all the field like "Matches Inns Not Out Runs HS Ave 100 50 Ct St" in one row and their values in next row would make it elaborative and confined at the same time.A additional line mentioning that he is playing season 2011 with PWI would conclude it.--abhishek (talk) 13:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 182.72.240.10, 26 May 2011[edit]

Involved in Land Allotment Case: The Supreme Court has directed cricketer Sourav Ganguly to surrender the 63.04 'katha' of land within two weeks on 26-May-2011, thereby quashing the land allotment by the Left front government in 2000. The land was alloted for the establishment of a crikceting academy. The SC has now directed Ganguly to surrender the land in two weeks. 182.72.240.10 (talk) 06:15, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Not done Please provide a reliable source next time. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:57, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Here are some references for the news."Supreme Court quashes land allotment to Saurav Ganguly". Retrieved 26 May 2011.  "Supreme Court quashes land allotment to Sourav Ganguly". Hindustan Times. Retrieved 26 May 2011.  "Supreme Court quashes land allotment to Sourav Ganguly". Economic Times. Retrieved 26 May 2011.  I couldn't decide in which section it should be added.Please look into this.--192.8.220.34 (talk) 09:30, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Official Website of Sourav Ganguly[edit]

The Official Website of Sourav Ganguly is http://scganguly.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.214.1.26 (talk) 07:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 117.214.1.26, 26 August 2011[edit]

Official Website of Sourav Ganguly is http://scganguly.com/ 117.214.1.26 (talk) 07:12, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

 DoneLegolas (talk2me) 13:47, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
I've undone this edit because I'm not convinced that it is his official site. It seems to be a fan club/unofficial site, judging by the lack of actual input from Ganguly himself (or his management team), the fact the twitter feed it links to is SCGanguly_FC [fan club], and the facebook page clearly says:
"About
This is the official Page of www.scganguly.com. This is a Page run by some Fans not Sourav himself."
Seems quite definitive that this isn't official; as such, I've reverted and removed the link because it doesn't comply with WP:FANSITE. If I'm mistaken, please give me a shout. Ta. Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 16:27, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit Request: "Stringly Condemned" for Natwest 2002[edit]

The article says twice that Ganguly was "strongly" condemned for taking off his shirt at Lord's. However, the only reference to any criticism on the web I can find is an article in the Telegraph (Kolkata) using exactly the same wording as this article. No reference to an actual "strong condemnation" seems to exist. I would recommend deleting this claim unless a reference to an actual "strong condemnation" (or any condemnation at all) is added. 75.18.220.193 (talk) 22:33, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

"He was soon the subject of media criticism after an unsuccessful stint for county side Durham and for taking off his shirt in the final of the 2002 Natwest Trophy" .... really? Because Ganguly's shirt taking off incident is considered, in India atleast, a heroic act.. something which he is respected and remembered for. From what I remember, this was a fitting reply to Flintoff's shirt taking of incident in India....There must have been a small insignificant news channel in the UK, which grabbed the editor's attention, hence causing him to make am incorrect general statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.169.12.142 (talk) 07:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request: Factual Error about Ganguly being the only other Indian (apart from Sachin Tendulkar) to cross 10,000 runs in ODI.[edit]

While he was the second person to get to the landmark, Rahul Dravid has also crossed the 10,000 run mark in ODIs. This should be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sibin m (talkcontribs) 09:23, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 April 2012[edit]

Please change "is a former Indian cricketer, and captain of the Indian national team" to "is an Indian cricketer, and a former captain of the Indian national team". He is still playing club cricket. Saurish (talk) 19:39, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 20:18, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

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Edit request on 8 May 2012[edit]

Change the photo image to PWI image


Sreeni24 (talk) 14:32, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done. We don't have a commons compatible photo of Ganguly playing for Pune Warriors. Nev1 (talk) 14:42, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 May 2012[edit]

ODI RecordsSourav Ganguly is the only player to win four consecutive Man-of-the-Match awards in ODIs. He did it against Pakistan in Toronto.He won the Man of the series also. Sourav Ganguly together with Rahul Dravid scored 318 (2nd wicket) vs Sri Lanka in 1999.This is the highest partnership in World cup. Sourav Ganguly made a mammoth 183 against Sri Lanka in World Cup 1999, which, at that time, was the Highest ODI Score by an Indian, beating Kapil Dev's Record of 175*. Sourav Ganguly is one of the three cricketers in the World to score more than 10,000 runs and took more than 100 wickets and 100 catches respectively in one days.The other being Sanath Jayasuriya and Sachin Tendulkar. Sourav Ganguly scored 22 centuries in ODI which is the second highest as an Indian and Fourth highest in the World. Sourav Ganguly is one of the 3 Indian Batsman (and 4rth in the world) to score more than 10,000 runs in ODI. [edit] Test RecordsSourav Ganguly's innings are now the highest ever by an Indian left-hander. He is the second left-hander to register a double hundered in Test Cricket. Saurav Ganguly is now the seventh left hander to post an innings of 200-plugs against Pakistan, joining Garry Sobers (West Indies), Mark Taylor (A), Graham Yallop (A), Kumar Sangakkara (SL) and Brain Lara (WI). Saurav Ganguly scored a Century on Debut at Lords in 1996, and went on to score a century in the very next match as well. Please insert the above personal record section for sourav ganguly.


Sreeni24 (talk) 14:40, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 15:11, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request 13 January 2013[edit]

Source 128 I have looked up the book in question for this source of comments and quotes. Page 32 of the 2006 Almanack is about how Philip DeFreitas and David Capel failed to be the next Botham. It is page 3 of 4. It is written by Peter Hayter. There is an electonic copy found here: http://www.espncricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/content/story/248047.html

Source 123 Page 45 is about the rise of Islam within the Pakistan cricket team, the second page of 'With Allah on their side' In the book, page 45 is the second of this three-page article. Again, this is not written by Engel, but appear in a book edited by him. http://www.espncricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/content/story/252265.html

If required I am happy to scan these pages to verify that this is what they are.

I would suggest that these supposed comments/quotes by Matthew Engel be immediately removed. It seems quite clear that these comments have been fabricated as they have poor syntax and the use of words may indicate autotranslate or a non-native speaker of English.

I hope these supposed quotes don't appear elsewhere, with another journalist as the 'supposed' source.

Matthew Engel is not an 'ICC sport critic' which makes it sounds as if he is an official journalist working for the ICC. Engel has had two stints editing Wisden Cricketers' Almanack, and he has held a number opinions against the ICC. In other words he has criticized the ICC. Whoever has used this moniker 'ICC sport critic' has either blurred the distinction between ICC and Wisden, or has noticed a headline with 'Engel' 'criticize' and 'ICC' and got very confused. Furthermore the ICC (which stands for International Cricket Council) is only about cricket, not about any other sports, and so the concept of 'ICC sport' is one error below being even a tautology.

The quotes do not bear his style at all. Secondly there are syntactical pointers to suggest these are fabricated quotes weren't written by anyone with English as a first language. 'By' rather than 'with' before 'instigating...' is usually what is used - 'with' here very unusual and not even something an old-fashioned person would say and so 'with here is just very poor syntax. 'mal-decisions' is not a word, but appears to be a word generated from autotranslate. 'Counter-pose' is almost never used outside the context of describing dance steps or acting. 'Behaviours' is not something people 'instigate' - the object of this verb is usually more solid or tangible than that. A moment's reflection on the imprecision of 'behaviours' being 'limitless' show how poorly thought through this supposed quote can be. It is unlikely to the point of impossibility that any professional journalist would have expressed this, let alone one as experience as Matthew Engel.

Finally although 'effing' might appear suitable as a comment this seems very unlikely. Engel's written words are at the very least professional, and would not include something like this; he won't exactly Bowdlerise, but any journalist worth his salt can make his point clear, and in strong terms, without using such words. On the other hand, if this be something that is said then Engel would actually have used the swear word being skirted around. 'Effing' is too tepid for a direct spoken quote and too childish for a written quote.

Relating.no dada no kkr wikipedia page[edit]

Hello all.i would like you all to consider relating the no dada no kkr wikipedia page to this page and citing the fans protest after the ipl4 auctions .any opinions? Virinchi523 (talk) 17:31, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

  • Good idea! I have added it in "See also" section for now! --Tito Dutta (contact) 20:14, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

can you also consider adding a few lines about the fans outrage after ipl4 auctions and then cite that page.i doo think it deserves a place after all do express your views. Virinchi523 (talk) 09:10, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Be WP:Bold, and do it yourself! Anyone can edit Wikipedia! --Tito Dutta (contact) 09:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Userbox[edit]

Hi Gangulians show your mass by using this userbox

#WeMissYouDada This user is missing Dada in cricket

Just copy this to your userpage. {{User:Royroydeb/Userboxes/NoDadanoCricket}}


Deb (talk) 11:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 June 2013[edit]

this is important just let know the fans the actual birth time and source is private but it is the correct info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indranil Dutta (talkcontribs) 09:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Indranil Dutta (talk) 11:32, 25 June 2013 (UTC) Please Change the birth date from 8th July,1972 to 8th July,1972 11:45 AM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indranil Dutta (talkcontribs) 11:34, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Not done: You didn't provide a reliable source. That's not important, though, because we wouldn't include a time in a birth date unless there was some significant reason, discussed in the article content, that the time was important. Even the instructions for {{Infobox cricketer}} specify "YYYY|MM|DD" as the format. Begoontalk 02:58, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Not done: No reliable source provided. In any case, there is no valid reason to provide the time of birth – the date is sufficient. NiciVampireHeart 14:26, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

WP:INDICSCRIPT[edit]

I believe that the community consensus is not to add Indic scripts to articles under the India project, other than the geography related ones. Unfortunately, one contributor, User:বিজয় চক্রবর্তী, in spite of being told about this, has been on a spree adding Bengali scripts to numerous articles. When his edits are reverted, he gets in to an edit war mode. A clear guideline on this will be highly appreciated. Thanks. Shovon (talk) 08:10, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I have added Bengali script names only to articles of the people who are natively Bengali people, as I also referred to articles of other people carry their native language. for Example Russian people or Japanese people articles contain their native name in their language in (brackets), (Please also Refer to WP:MOSBIO). And Indic scripts are only not to be added when an articles relates inclusion of all the language of India, making the article bulky with so many languages like geographical (e.g Indian Ocean) or any other type of article (e.g. India, Sonia Gandhi, Government of India, Manmohan Singh etc...), It does NOT include articles like (West Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Nallari Kiran Kumar Reddy, Robindronath Tagore, Debendranath Tagore, Keshub Chunder Sen etc...) which are native language/ language specific! বিজয় চক্রবর্তী (Bijoy Chokroborti) 08:33, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
We are not dealing with Wikiproject Russia or Japan here! According to the community consensus in Wikiproject India, "There is community consensus that the lead sentence of an article should not contain any regional or Indic language script. It is suggested that IPA be used for help with pronunciation. For details, refer to this RfC: Native languages in lead." You can add Bengali language in any of the Bangladesh related articles, but NOT, in articles covered under Wikiproject India. Shovon (talk) 08:52, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
I understand that we are not dealing with any other Wikiprojects here, But according to the meaning of Native scripts lead on Wikiproject India, You are not supposed to add Indic scripts when an articles relates inclusion of all the language of India, making the article bulky with so many languages like geographical (e.g Indian Ocean) or any other type of article (e.g. India, Sonia Gandhi, Government of India, Manmohan Singh etc...), It does NOT include articles which are native language/ language specific! (e.g. West Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Nallari Kiran Kumar Reddy, Robindronath Tagore, Debendranath Tagore, Keshub Chunder Sen etc...) (for example If you bring Wikiproject India terms on Indian related geographic articles also, then none of the India related article shall contain any other language than English!) I hope it was clear to understand! বিজয় চক্রবর্তী (Bijoy Chokroborti) 09:14, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Which part of "There is community consensus that the lead sentence of an article should not contain any regional or Indic language script. It is suggested that IPA be used for help with pronunciation." is not clear to you? Shovon (talk) 09:20, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
You please understand the meaning of the following previous post "regional language is different from the native language": You are not supposed to add Indic scripts when an articles relates inclusion of all the language of India, making the article bulky with so many languages like geographical (e.g Indian Ocean) or any other type of article (e.g. India, Sonia Gandhi, Government of India, Manmohan Singh etc...), It does NOT include articles which are native language/ language specific! (e.g. West Bengal, Tamil Nadu, Nallari Kiran Kumar Reddy, Robindronath Tagore, Debendranath Tagore, Keshub Chunder Sen etc...) (for example If you bring Wikiproject India terms on Indian related geographic articles also, then none of the India related article shall contain any other language than English!) I hope it was clear to understand! বিজয় চক্রবর্তী (Bijoy Chokroborti) 10:03, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Uhhh! This is really frustrating! I hope some other contributors may intervene and drill some sense! No offence meant! Shovon (talk) 10:21, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2013[edit]

God of Cover 182.65.169.82 (talk) 16:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Shivam Setu (U-T-C) 16:53, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Already done mentioned in the Playing style and influences section Shivam Setu (U-T-C) 17:07, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2013[edit]

Quotes to Sourav Ganguly from other legends of Cricket

Extended content
   Sourav is a great captain and we should be proud of such a leader. –Kapil Dev
   Sourav’s greatest strength is his mind. He is hardworking – not only in the nets but also mentally. He bounces back. – Sachin Tendulkar
   On the offside, first there is God, then Sourav Ganguly. –Rahul Dravid
   We have a young talented side. They have found a good captain in Sourav Ganguly.–Indian cricketing legend Mustaq Ali
   He is a wonderful batsman and definitely the best captain that India can have. So far he has surpassed my expectations and continues to do so. You rarely come across people like Sourav, he is different, he is special, there can be just one Sourav Ganguly.–Indian cricketer Arun Lal
   Sourav’s greatest asset is his ability to communicate. He is a naturally very confident person. He encourages his team, is a great motivator and a born captain. He is not the media’s blue eyed boy because he is a very straightforward person, who never minces his words, instead he talks in a no nonsense manner to the press. He shares an extremely healthy rapport with his teammates. His leadership skills are also vouched for by the youngsters in the team. He has phenomenal brand value. He’s the new-age Indian, an aggressive go-getter, full of self-belief, determination.–Ravi Shashtri
   Ever since Sourav became the captain, I do not feel like a youngster in the team any more. Everybody is treated equally and Sourav himself is extremely approachable and a pillar of strength. Sourav stood by me when I was struggling. I owe a great deal to him for standing by me at the most important time. I can’t express my gratitude to him in words.–Harbhajan Singh
   He is the first one to encourage us when we perform well. He is firm but he is fair. He is a very tough and aggressive captain, who is on all accounts, a team man, one who backs his players. Off the field, he is very easy and approachable. He also shows a great interest in all his juniors and their game. When I wasn’t selected for a particular tour of England, Sourav personally called me up and told me how he too had gone through a bad patch and then things had improved for the better, just as they would for me.–Deep Dasgupta
   The Bengal tiger always has his tail up, ready to devour the opposition.–Navjot Singh Sidhu
   Sourav is really the best captain India has ever had.–Sunil Gavaskar
   Besides football, the only other game I ever took interests in was basketball, but never cricket. Sourav is the sole reason why I am a cricket lover today. He has worked very hard to reach the position he is in today and that makes him really admirable.–Best-known footballer and captain of Indian Football team, Baichung Bhutia
   I captained Sourav in the East Zone. He was a majestic player. I have not seen anybody play a cover drive as well as Sourav. He is very busy, nevertheless, he is so approachable that one will always find the youngsters of the team crowding around him and discussing cricket and swapping strategies.–Former domestic cricketer Saba Karim
   I have known Ganguly as a quiet lad, who always respected the seniors and lent an ear to any advice that came from them. This was the quality that impressed me most in this determined cricketer and I was not averse to giving him a break as early as possible.–Mohammed Azharuddin
   Sourav’s best quality is that he has the ability to remain unperturbed even when he faces severe criticism.–Javagal Srinath
   The great thing about Sourav is that he doesn’t let any criticism bother him. He is his own man, and an intensely determined one. He always speaks his mind. His batting is a unique mix of touch and power. When he plays those drives, it’s all touch, all elegance. Timing is his gift. He has the ability to not only clear the ropes but even the stadium. Against spin, my god, he is really a murderer! One thing I’d love to have from his game is his the ability to clear the ropes. As a captain, he is always encouraging his batsmen, reminding them of past successes. Sourav is among the best one-day players I have seen.–VVS Laxman
   There is nothing wrong with his captaincy. He has marshalled his troops quite well and moulded the side into a winning outfit in the last few years. –Syed Kirmani
   “Outsiders don’t understand the feeling of our people, the kind of respect we have for these players. I think that he made a comeback and proved himself all over again made it clear that he should not have been thrown out in the first place. He made a point and proved people wrong,” -Kapil Dev
   Sourav has given them [the Indian team] that confidence and ability to target teams or individuals at key times.–John Buchanan, Australian coach
   I’ve worked with Sourav and I enjoy his company. I found him to be likeable and a very nice fellow. It will be good to renew the acquaintance.–Greg Chappell
   I’ve learnt so much from Sourav. He has played 15 years of cricket. Sitting down with him and getting to know phenomenal.- David Hussey
   He’s the type of bloke you would want to have on your side. When you see an Indian side with Ganguly in the line-up, you know it’s game on. You don’t have to like or dislike him. You have to respect him.- Steve Waugh
   Sourav has got a huge role to play in Indian cricket and its success. I hope certainly that he gets back in there because he is a hell of a good player and he still has got too much to offer to Indian cricket.- Allan Donald (when dada was out of team)
   He has got a lot of runs and we have a huge respect for him.- Graeme Smith
   I have seen Ganguly bat and he can make a difference.– Graeme Pollock
   He lends credibility to the batting order.- Gary Kirsten
   Sourav Ganguly has been an excellent captain, his record speaks for himself. I found him to be a tough competitor and every Indian should feel proud of Sourav.–Former England captain Nasser Hussain
   Ganguly is the new Steve Waugh of mind games. -Ian Healy
   Whatever I have seen of his captaincy, I liked it.- Arjuna Ranatunga, former Sri Lankan skipper
   Ganguly is a very good leader. His return to the field brings a spring in the steps of the Indians. He is a great player- Ricky Ponting
   A quality batsman. There are a couple of things I like about his batting. He is right up there on my list, as far as offside play goes. The other thing he excels at is his use of feet to spinners. He keeps his head down, has nice footwork and a lovely long follow-through. I really enjoy it when he comes down the track to spinners. In fact, you can safely bet that it would go for a six. — Ian Chappell
   Sourav has done an excellent job of balancing his captaincy with his personal game. He looks like he is enjoying being captain. And effectively, he has lightened the burden on Sachin Tendulkar.-Dave Whatmore
   He is a brilliant player and definitely a force to reckon with! –Wasim Akram
   He’s very competitive and knows what he wants. He has developed toughness in character and that is what is needed for Indian cricket. Ganguly has proved to be one of the best captains. He has now acquired great leadership qualities.–Steve Waugh
   His biggest asset is his freakish sense of timing. When playing his big shots, he could be very dangerous.–Shaun Pollock
   The Prince of Calcutta. Two of his special qualities are his intelligence and articulation, both of which have helped him immensely in the world of contemporary cricket. — Geoffrey Boycott

Source - http://scganguly.com/2011/05/quotes-on-sourav-ganguly/

Go4santo (talk) 12:32, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: A long list of random quotes copy/pasted from a website will not get added to an article. If you feel there is an especially relevant quote that adds to the encyclopedic value of the article then suggest a specific edit, but otherwise no. --ElHef (Meep?) 00:41, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2017[edit]

In the introduction section it is mentioned that sourav ganguly is the "honorable" president of the west bengal cricket. That 'honorable' should be avoided. Jibincjose (talk) 11:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Done Izno (talk) 13:04, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2017[edit]

Hi , I have gone through this page and found deadlink for the page. Here is the deadlink title "Ganguly and Dravid storm the World Cup 1999" . I would like to update the link with https://www.toptrendz.net/ganguly-dravid-storm-world-cup-1999/ Thanks Toptrendz (talk) 09:00, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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