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- 1 Map
- 2 Old
- 3 Map
- 4 No longer a stub?
- 5 Some issues
- 6 Constalitisation
- 7 australia is a country or a continent?
- 8 How much of the Earth's total land area is in the Southern Hemisphere?
- 9 'S'outhern 'H'emisphere or 's'outhern 'h'emisphere?
- 10 Requested move
- 11 Asia
- 12 Which dialect
- 13 Intro
- 14 Second Requested move
- 15 Population
- 16 What does "mild" mean?
- 17 Kenya
- 18 Error in Indonesian population count
This map is totally stupid, it cuts off a major part of the southern hemisphere and misses the antartic. It doesnt show the southern hemisphere, just 3/4 of it so the lable is incorrect. I am useless with maps/wiki in general so could someone do something about it or give me a good reason why the antartic is not shown? Milesharrison (talk) 19:04, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- P.S. But without the Equator and yellow shading, it would be great for Prime Meridian. :) Wmahan. 17:35, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
No longer a stub?
- This article provides enough information. Is it still a stub? - Matthew kokai 04:08, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Paragraph 2 - technically, Oceania is not a continent. Also, in those parts of the southern hemisphere that are north of the tropic of capricorn, the sun passes to the south at some points during the year.
Also some work is needed on nations in the Southern Hemisphere. Under Asia, for example, Malaysia and the Maldives are on both sides of the equator, while under the Pacific New Caledonia has been left out.
Otherwise, good sutff.Tim Macready 4:45 pm 3 February, 2006 (EST)
- I changed the 2nd paragraph around to make a bit more sense, now the continents are listed in order of how much of their landmass is located in the S. hemisphere, also changed Oceania (which is a region not a continent) to Australia and linked to the Australia_(continent) page
The Commonwealth of Australia includes both the continent of Australia and the island of Tasmania. In Australia, summer begins on 1st December and winter on 1st June (each 3 months)and not on the solstices.Chamonee (talk) 13:20, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
An anonymous editor added the statement that In the north of England, the Southern Hemisphere is known as the 'constalitisation'. I'm not convinced that's true, and even if it is, the word alone is arguably not relevant to the article. I raised the same issue at Talk:Cumbrian dialect.
I'm surprised that you do not know this, but the phrase comes from an old English folk tale about a hero who journeys below the equator...although the term equator wasnt actually used. Please reinstitute the note. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk • contribs) 05:20, 10 May 2006
- I've yet to see any evidence for the word, other than your edits to articles like Cumbrian dialect, Lancashire, and English folklore. But if you can provide a verifiable source, I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong and reinstate the edit. -- Wmahan. 21:50, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
australia is a country or a continent?
australia is a country or a continent?
- I say both. It depends on who you ask. --Spoon! 21:43, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's both. They're not mutually exclusive, it's just that it's the only place that is (though in the past some people used to say the continent was 'Australasia', but that seems to have faded). --jjron 10:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- Just noticed the article itself uses both these terms for the continent, and there's a separate article on Australasia. As I said above, from my experience, the use of that term is becoming quite unpopular, but evidently it's still in use. --jjron 10:54, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, Australia is definitely BOTH a country and a continent!!!! :-) RaNdOm26 16:26, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
How much of the Earth's total land area is in the Southern Hemisphere?
This article should provide an answer for that question, but doesn't. Peter G Werner 00:35, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- I think both the Northern and Southern Hemisphere articles should also say what portion of the hemisphere is water.--Jeff79 21:44, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
'S'outhern 'H'emisphere or 's'outhern 'h'emisphere?
Is it a proper noun? --- RockMFR 16:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Revisiting this--the four online dictionaries do not provide the required authority. 'Hemisphere' is a common noun. Compare 'the world', 'atmosphere', 'stratosphere'. The New Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors (2005), at page 260, specifies 'northern hemisphere (lower case)' but North Pole (caps)--and the same for 'southern hemisphere' and South Pole (page 361). I find that this standard is supported by my Funk & Wagnell's (U.S.) Dictionary. Chapter 5 of New Hart's Rules provides a detailed discussion of capitalization issues, including the sensible principle
It is as well, generally to minimise the use of capital initials where there is no detectable difference in meaning between capitalized and lower-case forms.
While East Timor and Indonesia may be considered by some (and I don't have an attribution for this; I'm being generous in admitting it's possible) to be Asian countries, the parts of each that lie in the Southern Hemisphere are not in the Asian mainland. The southernmost point of the Asian continent is at or near Singapore, which is 137 km north of the Equator. Therefore, Asia is not in the Southern Hemisphere, as this article claims. I'll be making the correction shortly. -- JeffBillman (talk) 17:56, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- This is but one interpretation: islands adjacent to a continental mainland are often considered to be part of a particular continent. Glance at a map of Asia, whereby the isles of Indonesia are reckoned as part of Asia; the same holds true for Japan, Greenland, the British Isles, et al. Therefore, I have reworded the edit slightly. Quizimodo (talk) 18:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Can we decide on a dialect for this article. Below is an excerpt of the article with key words in bold.
In the southern hemisphere the sun passes from east to west through the north, although north of the Tropic of Capricorn the mean sun can be directly overhead or due south at midday. The sun rotating through the north causes an apparent right-left trajectory through the sky unlike the left-right motion of the sun when seen from the northern hemisphere as it passes through the southern sky. Sun-cast shadows turn anticlockwise through the day (sun dials have the hours in reverse). Hurricanes and tropical storms spin clockwise in the southern hemisphere (as opposed to counter-clockwise in the northern hemisphere) due to the Coriolis effect.
So, should the article be in British English or American English, or is it currently in Australian English? Is the use of both terms standard in Australian or South African English? So which dialect is the article in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RJM (talk • contribs) 02:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
It would make sense to use a Southern Hemisphere dialect. Is there anything here which would be different in Australian, New Zealand and/or South African English? JIMp talk·cont 13:33, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
"The Southern Hemisphere is the half of a planet that is south of the equator" This doesn't make sense. THE Southern Hemisphere is the southern half of Earth. A southern hemisphere is the half of a planet that is south of its equator. Or have I misunderstood? Headbeater (talk) 05:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Second Requested move
Is there a credible and up to date source for the population of the southern hemisphere? Counting all the countries together which lie mostly or entirely in the southern hemisphere, it should be something between 850,000,000 and 950,000,000 people. TillF (talk) 01:09, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- that can be good, have you reliable sources for this?.--AlfaRocket (talk) 20:10, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
What does "mild" mean?
This sentence troubles me:
"Southern Hemisphere climates tend to be slightly milder than those at similar latitudes in the Northern Hemisphere, except in the Antarctic which is colder than the Arctic."
I think "mild" must mean "less extreme" (without implications of hot or cold) but then why add that the Antarctic is colder?
Is Kenya partly or mostly in the Southern Hemisphere? What would be the percentage of the country that is actually in the Southern Hemisphere? I can't find any info on the web, it seems to be a 50/50 conundrum with the naked eye. Bobbie73 (talk) 08:16, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
- Since no one answered my question posted more than two months ago, I decided to have a go myself. According to my wild estimate, calculated using Google Maps, the area of Kenya in the Southern Hemisphere is approx. 262,198 sq km, about 45.1% of Kenya's total area. Bobbie73 (talk) 15:13, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Error in Indonesian population count
“… while 141 million live on the island of Java, the most populous island in the world. The most populous nation in the Southern Hemisphere is Indonesia, with 261 million people (roughly 230 million of whom live north of the equator on the northern portions of the islands of Sumatra, Borneo and Sulawesi, while the rest of the population lives in the Southern Hemisphere).”
This section of the article contradicts itself (emphasis mine), as it is impossible that there are 141 million Javanese (all south of the equator) but only 261−230=61 million Indonesians in the Southern hemisphere (unless, maybe, other southhemispherical islands of Indonesia have huge negative populations). I suspect some figures got fliped or inverted, but since I have no sources I cannot correct it. 2405:204:B08B:4C9:AEE0:10FF:FE55:C5E0 (talk) 16:08, 19 February 2018 (UTC)