Talk:Sponge and dough

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hey ive been meanig to do this page for a while now....and half way through i lost interest.....any help would be appreciated and i will probably come back again soon to tidy and fix it up, but until then...Imyoink 01:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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Sponge and dough, Sponge Method, Preferments[edit]

"Sponge and dough" is a historically accurate name according to Google Book search, reporting Raymond Calvel has it in his text: the reference is not viewable, but mouseover reports "Page 43 The sponge and dough method was also used — and still is — for the production of common brioche, and especially for the Vendee-style brioche. ..." I don't have a copy to read and verify what it says. Gisslen, more recently, calls this the "Sponge Method" or even simply Sponge. A similar phenom seems to occur with the term "proofing". Older texts seem to simply mean some stage of fermentation, whereas modern texts mean one specific rest period, final fermentation. There also seems to be logical process overlap occurring with sourdough, as the sponge and dough method seems to attempt to duplicate some of the techniques of sourdough without using Candida Milleri and Lactobacillus Sanfransciscas, instead using commercial baker's yeast, Saccharomyces Cerevisiae. For example, Hamelman in Bread, who has quite a bit to say about sourdough, doesn't mention "sponge", at least it isn't indexed, but he does write about various types of preferments, such as poolish and biga with respect to the use of commercial yeast, which seem to have many if not all of the characteristics of sponges. Gzuufy (talk) 23:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)