Talk:Srebrenica massacre

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Whole article is propaganda[edit]

Frankly, the entirety of this page and section is nothing but propaganda. I served for UNPROFOR in that region and trust me, the number of Serb victims in the area was not "falsified" or exaggerated. According to the RDC, 3,500 Serbs were killed of which 1,000 were civilian victims. The entire article presents massively one side of the story (and I understand why, of course) but nonetheless this is supposed to be educational for people, not a pity parade or a propagandistic attempt to deny ALL ELSE that happened before and after the events in July 1995. This page honestly has almost no academic value to, really, anybody but Bosnian Muslims or Bosnian Muslim nationalists. Indeed, the entire page seems to have been written with the blind nationalism of the 1990's revisited, of which the Muslims certainly fell prey to back then. In any event, the entirety of this article is comically one sided. It is as if the Bosnian Ministry of Information wrote the article themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.187.101.222 (talk) 18:23, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you unsigned above. I have moved the Renaming heading and put in another - I hope that's OK. Plenty of evidence that shows the "Srebrenica massacre" was a fraud, but it's quite hard to find discussion by just Googling (wonder why). Here's one article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-srebrenica-massacre-was-a-gigantic-political-fraud/5321388. Bougatsa42 (talk) 19:17, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Frankly, you are a FRAUD. To begin with, you never served in UNPROFOR. The number of Serv victims is bogus and falsified because if know Serves, they would have shrines to these so called victims. Point us to these so-called victims. There plethora of evidence supporting the truthiness of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.156.40.48 (talk) 15:35, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Kravica sponaneously[edit]

This part seems problematic:

The mass murder in Kravica seemed unplanned and seems to have started spontaneously when one of the warehouse doors suddenly swung open, according to trial testimony.

The reference given was a reuse of the name "un.org" which have had multiple declarations in the past. Now "un.org" has a single declaration and lots of incorrect re-uses. I could with a reasonably degree of certainty figure out what reference was actually supposed to have been used, however it ended up looking like original research. The Krstic Judgement notes that "The paucity of evidence implicating the Drina Corps in the commission of the mass executions on 13 July stands in contrast to the substantial evidence implicating the Drina Corps in the commission of the mass executions from 14 July onwards as discussed infra", and a survivor states "all of a sudden there was a lot of shooting in the warehouse". A better source is needed, if it exists. Uglemat (talk) 15:02, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Confusion about Republika Srpska Commission on Srebrenica[edit]

There seems to be much confusion surrounding the "Second RS Report". There seems to be two related groups here, first the "Commission for the research of events in and around Srebrenica in 10 – 19 July 1995" ("Srebrenica Commission", or "Commission for Srebrenica") which issued two reports, one on 11 June, another one on 15 October 2004. Confusingly, both have been referred to as the "final report" in sources I've seen. There is also a second group, the "Working group for the enforcement of conclusions arising from Final Report of the Srebrenica Commission"[1].

Then there is the issue of the 892 names. The Amnesty Source cited[2] says

At the end of March 2005 the RS authorities subsequently forwarded a list of some 892 persons suspected of involvement in Srebrenica to the State Prosecutor of Bosnia and Herzegovina; the list included many still employed by the RS government.

Most sources seem to agree however, like Čekić wrote in the first source I've given, that:

[The Working Group] established the number of persons who were, in March 2005, on leading positions within the authorities of Bosnia and Herzegovina, entities, and municipalities (SIPA, OSA, DGS, Bosnia and Herzegovina Ministry of Defense, the Republika Srpska Ministry of Defense, the Republika Srpska Ministry of Interior, Judicial police, Misdemeanor courts, municipalities, etc.), who took part in the events in and around Srebrenica in 10 – 19 July 1995. The number is 892 persons.

It seems the Amnesty source is wrong, and therefore the wikipedia article as of now.

Uglemat (talk) 16:28, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

This book, chapter 7, seems to clear things up. The October report apparently is an addendum to the "final report" of June 2004, after a sudden batch of new documents. I haven't read it all yet. Uglemat (talk) 22:54, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

References

Duplicate article[edit]

Looks like Bosnian genocide is duplicate article on the same subject. Soarwakes (talk) 08:10, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

This is about the specific event, the other is about the broader phenomenon, there may though be duplication of info. Pincrete (talk) 08:16, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

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