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The trivia section of this article appears to be a direct rip from

While being pursuited by 2 Son'a battle cruisers, Riker, against his officers warning, decide to go enter the dangerous area of Briar Patch, commenting to use them like Bre'r Rabbit thorn bush. In the Disney's stories, the Bre'r Rabbit can slips into thorn bush, while his pursuers, Bre'r Fox and Bre'r Bear can't.

More Trivia[edit]

Anthony Zerbe's head explodes in the film, just like it did in Licence to Kill. Wonder if the screenwriter knew that in advance. Poor guy... Kochamanita (talk) 02:02, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Another deleted seen[edit]

? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC) When this movie came out, I remember Johathan Frakes saying that they had a sceen in which Captain Picard and Arij where very intemant located where Picard walks Arij to her home. It was apperenty cut by Paramount Executives. It would be fun to have a Director's cut of this movie with this sceen included. If you watch the movie again and imagine that seen where it's supposed to be, the film makes a lot more sense and would probably be as good as First Contact. Denis

Will never, ever contribute to Wiki again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Resources to use[edit]

British Film Institute
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Inspired by history?[edit]

see Chagos_Archipelago#Politics and Depopulation of Diego Garcia Turidoth (talk) 22:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Dispossession of native peoples to serve the interests of powerful governments has occurred repeatedly throughout history, I'm not clear why this particular example would seem salient to the film. Smcg8374 12:38, 25 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smcg8374 (talkcontribs)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Star Trek: Insurrection/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Cirt (talk · contribs) 02:39, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

I will review this article. — Cirt (talk) 02:39, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Good article nomination on hold[edit]

This article's Good Article promotion has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of April 26, 2013, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Pretty well written, a few points and recommendations, please respond below the entire review:
  1. What's up with this? Was it ever sent to WP:GOCE? If so, did it get a copyedit from them? If so, can that be noted on the talk page please using {{ArticleHistory}}? If not, could you nominate it for WP:GOCE requests?
  2. See also - would be nice to add a See also sect, with 5 links or so in that sect, then you can move the portal link up to that sect.
  3. Star Trek: Insurrection – Selections From The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack - could this use its own article? What about adding a tracklisting? And perhaps an image of the album cover?
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5. Article stability? Upon inspection of article edit history and talk page history, article is stable going back over one month.
6. Images?:
  1. File:Star Trek IX.jpg, fair use rationale could be improved, see model at File:Batman Begins Poster.jpg
  2. File:Jonathan Frakes cropped1.jpg - image checks out okay.
  3. File:Shimerman and Grodénchik by Beth Madison, 1.jpg - image checks out alright.
  4. File:Ira Steven Behr.jpg - image page looks good.
  5. File:High sierra trail.jpg - problem, image page formatting at Wikimedia Commons looks broken, please fix this?

Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. After 48 hours the article should be reviewed again. If these issues are not addressed within 7 days, the article may be failed without further notice. Thank you for your work so far. — Cirt (talk) 13:29, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Just a note regarding the soundtrack. Per MOS:FILM#Soundtrack, the consensus is not to have soundtrack cover images in film articles. Generally, though, if the soundtrack can be in a stand-alone article with sufficient context, it can have the image since it is on its own. As for the track listing, guidelines discourage mere listing of bland track titles, but maybe a workaround is to use a collapsible track listing template. That way, if readers want to actually see the individual tracks, they can expand the template. Erik (talk | contribs) 13:57, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
I agree on both counts. It would certainly seem in this case the soundtrack could have a standalone article. Also, there is certainly a way to do a collapsible track listing, this can be done easily with {{Track listing}} and setting "collapsed=yes". — Cirt (talk) 15:59, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

GA nominator responses[edit]

Response to question about copyediting and GOCE
Ah, that was because I wanted it copy edited for the DYK nomination as the prose wasn't very good at the time. Because of the delays, it wasn't getting reviewed in time so instead I went through and did it myself. I meant to removed the GOCE request after that but forgot - I've just removed it now. It wasn't ever reviewed by them. Miyagawa (talk) 20:10, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Oh, please add it back. Even if they don't get to it in time for this GA Review itself, it can't hurt to have them do it in the future. — Cirt (talk) 20:15, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Done. Miyagawa (talk) 20:25, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Keep us posted on the rest, here. :) — Cirt (talk) 20:34, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Forgot to mention - added a see also section and moved the portal link into it. I wasn't sure which links to include so I've only added a single link as that's what the section includes on the FA Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Miyagawa (talk) 20:38, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Good so far, maybe some other films deal with similar topical issues and themes? — Cirt (talk) 20:40, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Only one I could think of was Avatar (2009 film), in that the plots could be considered to be similar. Exploitation of a natural habitat with a rebellion by an element of those which would seek to do the exploiting. Miyagawa (talk) 21:16, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
That is a good one to add. There might be others in Category:Films about rebellions or Category:Films about extraterrestrial life? — Cirt (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
I've gone through both categories and identified one more with similar themes, which was Battle for Terra. Never seen it myself, but it sounds similar. I placed a non-section header to break those two films away from the franchise link and to give some sort of explanation as to why they're there. Miyagawa (talk) 07:07, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Managed to fix the Commons page for that image. Thanks for pointing me at the other poster, I had no idea there was a specific template for the fair use sections for posters. So I've swapped out the rationale with the new poster template. Miyagawa (talk) 20:36, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Added the punctuation and references to the image captions. Miyagawa (talk) 21:50, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Great, thank you! — Cirt (talk) 21:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
I've added the track listing, but MOS:FILM#Soundtrack does say that it shouldn't be there as it was a film score composed by one person. Miyagawa (talk) 21:41, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Ah, quite right. In that case, I'll defer to your judgment on whether or not to include it. — Cirt (talk) 21:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
I've removed it as the MOS states not to do it. Miyagawa (talk) 07:07, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

GA Review passed[edit]

Great job, thanks for being so responsive to the GA Review recommendations, — Cirt (talk) 03:33, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Redlinks, possible articles to create[edit]

Redlinks in the main article page, possible articles to create, just noting them here as an assist:

  1. Santa Barbara Studios
  2. Dean Jones (designer)

Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 13:36, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Warp Core Paradox[edit]

Can one of you trekkies explain how the Enterprise can return to the Ba'Ku after it has ejected its warp core? I assume you need one of those for warp speed? This has bothered me for years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:07, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

The Enterprise is fitted with a slower-speed propulsion system, Impulse drive, so it can make its way out of the briar patch and call up Star Fleet Command on sub-space comms for a new warp core, or roadside assist, or whatever else Starships do when they've jettisoned their FTL propulsion system. GrahamN-UK (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Critical Response sources are weak[edit]

This section seems at times to be fishing for scathing soundbites. Just looking at Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic, well known publications like The Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, The New Yorker, TV Guide among others gave positive reviews, and are ignored. Empire, the biggest film magazine in Britain, found in every Barnes and Noble, gave it 4 out of 5 stars. But who is quoted here? Birmingham Evening Mail (tabloid), Daily Mirror (tabloid), The Washington Times (Unification Church), Daily Herald (Arlington Heights, Illinois, a Chicago suburb). I'd think the largest and most familiar sources would get mentioned over tabloid and local papers tipping the balance to a negative response. Not that every movie page should quote Roger Ebert, but have a few names with established credibility. -- (talk) 02:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)