Talk:Star Wars in other media

Legends italicization

Per the official announcement, "Legends" is a banner for the old canon, not the title of a series—so it shouldn't be capitalized. This is consistent with how Star Wars Expanded Universe appears. Just because the italicized Legends has been hastily rolled out to a good number of articles is no reason to keep it. We should focus on doing things correctly, not arbritrarily italicizing something that isn't part of a title to maintain an incorrect status quo. UpdateNerd (talk) 20:53, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@TAnthony: Journey to Star Wars is another example of a "banner" that appears on book covers, but only the franchise title appears italicized per our MOS. UpdateNerd (talk) 20:56, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Legends is not a generic word like novel or trilogy or Expanded Universe, it is not referring to actual "legends" but is rather a branding title. And as I mentioned in my edit summary, external sources do not dictate our style; the MOS is clear that style and punctuation for content from external sources should conform with our MOS, not the other way around. Many external sources do not italicize the names of books or films or TV series, but we do, so even in direct quotes we apply our accepted style. This is not the same thing as common name or terminology, where sources may dictate usage. The Star Wars Legends styling was decided upon in 2014 when the term originated, it has not been "hastily rolled out". I see implied consensus in the fact that no one has felt the need to challenge it in 5 years. But I encourage any discussion here that can affirm consensus one way or the other.— TAnthony^Talk 21:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Journey to Star Wars, you say "only the franchise title appears italicized per our MOS" but is there an MOS rule or guideline I'm unaware of that covers this? That's how the program has been styled in our articles, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the correct way.— TAnthony^Talk 21:14, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

What consensus do you refer to that decided "Legends" was part of a title? As far as I'm aware, the chief person rolling this out to articles has been Rosvel92, whose edits are notoriously frought with typos (no offense to that editor).

On a related note, we don't even need to refer to Legends as often as we currently do. We should be referring to such works as Expanded Universe in section titles and prose related to pre-2014 content, and only refer to "Legends" when the rebranding itself is being discussed. That follows the same logic as not referring to prequel/sequel story ideas that hadn't been released at that time on articles related to older releases like the original trilogy, for example. UpdateNerd (talk) 21:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes I agree that there was a kind of (overkill) mass-conversion of SWEU to Legends without consideration to context, and the fact that we don't have an actual article named Star Wars Legends (by consensus) is somewhat telling. And haha, as far as Rosvel92, I personally rewrote most of his entries circa 2014/2015 and I know he wasn't solely responsible for the Legends styling (and I don't think he's as detail-oriented/OCD about style as you and I are). I didn't singlehandedly make the change either, but I certainly did cleanup/enforce/conform it as necessary. I said the current styling was "decided" in 2014 because it was implemented everywhere and no one had an issues with it until now. I can't remember exactly how it came about so it's fine to debate the issue now to everyone's satisfaction, but in the meantime it's appropriate to maintain the STATUSQUO.— TAnthony^Talk 23:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, this is a tad OCD but it helps to figure out once and for all, so we know we are working off consensus, and not editing over each other with conflicting preferences. In-universe SW articles have been somewhat of a ghost town as far as quality-control until the past year or so, so the status quo in this case isn't the most stable. However, I'm perfectly willing to wait a while for a consensus discussion to take place before making more nitty-gritty changes across a large number of articles. UpdateNerd (talk) 23:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

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