Talk:Stephen Colbert

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Immortailty Drive[edit]

Was surprised to see no mention of his DNA being digitally preserved on the Immortality Drive that is aboard the International Space Station. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.182.155.159 (talk) 08:38, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

add sources[edit]

add to "Manilow and Colbert would go on to jokingly sign and notarize a revolving biannual custody agreement for the Emmy on The Colbert Report episode aired on October 30, 2006." http://www.recordonline.com/article/20061031/ENTERTAIN/61031021

add to "He also portrayed the letter Z in Sesame Street: All-Star Alphabet, a 2005 video release." http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0484333/

add to "Colbert appeared in a small supporting role in the 2005 film adaptation of Bewitched. " http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374536/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mildreddd (talkcontribs) 08:07, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

add to poll numers http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2012/01/11/colbert-bumps-huntsman-in-south-carolina/ --Mildreddd (talk) 08:11, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

add to voting herman cain: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/stephen-colbert-tells-crowd-vote-for-herman-cain-who-sings-recites-pokemon/ --Mildreddd (talk) 08:28, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

add to forming exploratory: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tv-column/post/colberts-big-announcement-an-exploratory-committee-for-possible-presidential-run-and-jon-stewart-takes-over-his-super-pac/2012/01/13/gIQADPFDvP_blog.html ---- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/24/jon-stewart-rebuffs-stephen-colbert_n_1226091.html --Mildreddd (talk) 08:34, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Influences[edit]

I deleted BIll O'Reilly from the list of influences and was immediately rolled-back by an editor who I believe over-stepped their authority. My edit was a "good faith edit" and not usually subject to such an action. Bill O'Reilly is an object of satire for Mr. Colbert. Calling him an influence would be like calling George W. Bush an influence. At the very least a reversal should have been accompanied with more sophisticated comments than "Nope" and then pointing to the referenced article--which I read and which I believe supports my deletion. B1db2 (talk) 05:56, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

I don't know where you get the idea that an edit is immune to being undone just because the editor thought it was appropriate. That's not at all how Wikipedia works; good-faith edits are routinely undone when another editor disagrees. And I did not simply say "Nope"; I briefly explained my objection. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 16:20, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
You are correct about the "nope" part. I had remembered it as a bit more terse than it was. I apologize. Also, I read the statement below and felt your rollback was an example. Apparently, though, if you append a comment then a rollback is appropriate?
"Use of standard rollback for any other purposes – such as reverting good-faith changes which you happen to disagree with – is likely to be considered misuse of the tool. When in doubt, use another method of reversion and supply an edit summary to explain your reasoning."B1db2 (talk) 20:03, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
"Rollback" is a one-click tool for quickly undoing vandalism, available to editors who've shown they can be trusted to use it appropriately; I didn't use that here. I did what that quote says I should do: restore it manually, with an explanation. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 01:09, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
O'Reilly is pretty clearly an influence of the character, but possibly not the comedian. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:53, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Clearly a basis for the character. I would be interested in any argument as to how he is an influence for the comedian B1db2 (talk) 15:02, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
In the sense that the comedian based his act on O'Reilly's on-screen persona. In an article about an entertainer, "influences" means people who inspired his performance, not people who shaped his personal values. Colbert has said repeatedly that O'Reilly as a television host was an influence on the development of his act; whether you interpret it sarcastically or not, the influence of that performer on Colbert as a performer clearly exists, and is a matter of public record. (Your analogy of President Bush misses an important difference: Colbert has mocked him, but he hasn't done a show where he emulates Bush's tone and stylings.) It isn't our place to evaluate whether Mr. Colbert likes or dislikes Mr. O'Reilly personally or what he thinks of the man's politics, but to observe which prior entertainers' work influenced the work of this one. And by any objective standard, without the example of Bill O'Reilly's program to base it on, Stephen Colbert's program would not have been what it was. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 16:20, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
I appreciate your argument, but have to disagree. The Colbert Report was satirical takedown of O'Reilly's on-screen persona, as you call it. He was mocking him (among others), just as he was mocking Bush during the White House Correspondents dinner. I believe that if you expand the definition of influences to include those "who inspired his performance" then there can be no end to the list. Also, O'Reilly may be using a persona, but he means to be taken seriously. You certainly cannot say the same of Colbert's character.B1db2 (talk) 20:26, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
I'm not suggesting we list everyone, just influences that are independently documented as noteworthy. Did Colbert do a parody of Bush? (I didn't see it.) Even if so, it was just a thing he did once, not something he built his act on like the O'Reilly-esque Colbert Report was. Whether he means it to be taken seriously isn't the point. If I'm an Elvis impersonator, and I develop a performance that mimics Presley's singing and dancing, it doesn't matter whether I'm doing it out of sincere admiration, affectionate humor, or biting ridicule... whatever the intent of it is, my singing and dancing is objectively derived from his, and that's the sort of thing Wikipedia is supposed to document. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 01:09, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
At this point I recommend we bring in Mr. Colbert (the real person) ala Marshall Mcluhan in Annie Hall. B1db2 (talk) 19:54, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
Also not how Wikipedia works. –Jason A. Quest (talk) 02:04, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

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Colbert[edit]

"While Colbert sometimes comedically claims his surname is French"

Yes, it's a French origin name. Norman. And I believe it was a surname and a name.

http://www.geneanet.org/nom-de-famille/colbert https://www.houseofnames.com/colbert-family-crest/English

Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. [Suggestion][edit]

I don't see a reference to Colbert's appearance on the Jerry Seinfeld web series, Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, released July 8, 2015. The episode, "Cut Up and Bloody but Looking Good", was Season 6, Number 6. The pair rode in a 1964 Morgan +4 to the Bluestone Coffee Company, Montclair, New Jersey. It's one of the funniest of the series, in my opinion. The series has again been nominated for a Primetime Emmy. http://comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com/stephen-colbert-cut-up-and-bloody-but-looking-good Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 02:51, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

It's one appearance, on a series that has had a lot of famous people on it. Not especially notable -Jason A. Quest (talk) 02:59, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
You can do what you like, Jason A. Quest, but in other WP articles I've read concerning entertainers, every appearance is entered into the articles' tables, whether films, a single appearance in TV series, or web shows. Sometimes, even particularly well-known ad campaigns are credited. (Colbert was not merely one of several persons in the webisode, but was the only guest.) Thank you & Happy New Year, Wordreader (talk) 06:47, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
So add it to the table. It just isn't significant enough to write about. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 13:28, 22 December 2016 (UTC)