Talk:Summer squash

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Need to add reference to "autumn squashes"[edit]

Shouldn't there also be a note here saying "See also Autumn squashes"? If there is not an article on autumn squashes such as pumpkins, there should be one. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I see that there is an article in Wikipedia called Winter_squash, so we should just have the "See also" tag linking to that one. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 19:28, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Simlins[edit]

In the journals of Lewis and Clark, on October 12, 1804, Clark recorded that the Arikara tribe raised "great quantities of corn, beans, simlins, &c."[2] "Simlin" and "simnel" were southern words for summer squash. He may have been referring to Cucurbita moschata Duchesne, crookneck squash.

The most important problem with the above quoted paragraph is the interpretation of simlins. Simlin is a dialectal variant—possibly limited to the post-colonial southern states of America—of the word Simnel which came across the Atlantic with the early colonists. Simnel cake, and the word simnel, has been in use long before English colonization. The reason William Clark, and others, called the squash they saw simlins, simnels, simmins, simnins, cymnins, etc., etc., is because they resembled the cake by the same name. The squash they were seeing is today called Pattypan squash, a type of summer squash. The similarities in shape is unmistakable. To further support this conclusion, one could review the definitions of both words, simlin and simnel, on page 5637 of The Century Dictionary, originally published in 1889.

I always like to give authors the chance to edit first if the change is more than grammar, punctuation or spelling.

Update. I couldn't stand it. I had to go ahead and edit. See Edit History for details.

Jhscarborough (talk) 16:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]