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My name is Anisha, I am a Digital Strategist at Social@Ogilvy Hong Kong, and I am writing on behalf of my client Huawei Technologies. We would like to request an update to Sun Yafang's article. We would like to update the article with the latest and more comprehensive information about Sun Yafang.

Please find the changes that we would like to request:

1. Sun Yafang's main photo: Sun Yafang

This photo is appropriate for a free-content encyclopedia, please see liscence below. Creative commons license: <a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/"><img alt="Creative Commons Licence" style="border-width:0" src="https://i.creativecommons.org/l/by/4.0/88x31.png" /></a>
Sun Yafang by <a xmlns:cc="http://creativecommons.org/ns#" href="http://pr.huawei.com/en/static/HW-U-202673.jpg" property="cc:attributionName" rel="cc:attributionURL">Huawei </a> is licensed under a <a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/">Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License</a>.
Based on a work at <a xmlns:dct="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" href="http://pr.huawei.com/en/static/HW-U-202673.jpg" rel="dct:source">http://pr.huawei.com/en/static/HW-U-202673.jpg</a>.
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2. Add to Sun Yafang's background information.

Please keep the first two paragraphs as is. And then please add:

(Redacted)

3. Text to be changed in Background section:

Please change the word "stated" to "claimed" in the following sentence: “A 2011 report by the CIA stated Yafang worked for the Ministry of State Security of the People's Republic of China and linked her to the Chinese military.[5]”

4. Please add the following to her list of Awards: Sun Yafang received a United Nations award recognizing her efforts to use of information and communications technologies (ICTs) to empower women and girls, among other women.

Reference: 1. Bloomberg Executive profile of Madame Sun Yafang, Staff Editor, http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=26667397&privcapId=1259829&previousCapId=46299812&previousTitle=HUAWEI%20TECHNOLOGY%20CO%20LTD-A

2. Fortune Ranks Sun Yafang Most Powerful Chinese Businesswoman, Sun Xi, November 13,2013 http://www.womenofchina.cn/womenofchina/html1/people/business/16/7202-1.htm

3. About: Sun Yafang, Staff Editor, May 5, 2015, http://techacute.com/about-sun-yafang/

4. UN presents awards for promoting information technology use to empower women, Staff Editor, May 16, 2012 http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=42016#.Vd5xHryqqkp

AnishaSindher (talk) 06:45, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Anisha, and apologies for the late reply: the editors of Wikipedia are processing a very long requested edits backlog. We cannot accept your draft because part of the text appears to be copied or closely paraphrased from [1]. Wikipedia is an open-source project: we are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License, which permits our readers to reuse our text for whatever purpose they desire. As a result, copyrighted text for which we lack permission to reuse is incompatible with our free-license, and cannot be included in our articles except under extremely limited circumstances as detailed in the Non-free content policy. If you or your organization holds the copyright to your proposed text and is willing to release it under a free license, it is possible to grant Wikipedia permission for reuse by following the instructions at Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. But the preferred solution is to simply rewrite the text in your own words, which has the added benefit of maintaining a consistent editorial tone across Wikipedia's articles.

Additionally, our procedure for obtaining image releases of photographs is detailed at commons:OTRS; you'll just have to send an e-mail releasing the photograph, for the record. It's just an additional safety measure which I hope you can understand. Thanks, Altamel (talk) 05:17, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Altamel (talk) 04:30, 02 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Altamel,

My name is Anna, I am a colleague of Anisha's (who's now left Social@Ogilvy Hong Kong), and have taken on Huawei Technologies as my client. I would like to pick up the conversation and share the below:

1. Background: Propose changing the word "stated" to "claimed" in this sentence: “A 2011 report by the CIA claimed Yafang worked for the Ministry of State Security of the People's Republic of China and linked her to the Chinese military.[5]” The reason behind this is because words such as "stated", "noted", or "disclosed" are typically used to denote references to uncontested facts, but not to unproven charges or allegations (such as those made about Ms. Sun).

If this is not preferable, can we at least revise the sentence “A 2011 report by the CIA stated Yafang worked for the Ministry of State Security of the People's Republic of China” by changing “worked” to “had worked”? The use of the simple past tense implies that the 2011 CIA report alleges Ms. Sun was working with the Ministry of State Security when the report was released in 2011, where in fact, it actually alleges that Ms. Sun had worked with the Ministry at some point in the past, not that she was simultaneously holding down jobs at the Ministry of State Security and at Huawei. To leave the sentence written in the simple past tense is misleading.

3. Regarding Ms. Sun’s “cut and paste” bio entry: Since the information merely lists Ms. Sun’s various jobs and titles over the years, it is hard to re-phrase this content substantially. Obviously, we want to avoid closely paraphrasing a text, but given the nature of the content, do you think we can simply change a word words? If, for example, we changed the sequence in which her titles were presented, would that be sufficient to get around the copyright issues?

Many thanks!

Anna At Ogilvy (talk) 12:30, 2 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]