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NES pirate[edit]

Super Mario World was unofficially ported to the NES by Hummer Team in 1995. Hummer Team aka Someri Team also developed Somari and the NES version of Alladin. I mean look at that Alladin article. It also has link to Wikia which is not a reliable source. [1] [2] Richskim (talk) 00:36 13 November 2011 (UTC)

What am I supposed to "look at" in the Alladin article that supports the notability of this SMW NES hack? As for your two sources, Youtube and a Wikia are not RS in any way, shape or form, especially not when attempting to assess notability. I am well-aware of the SMW New Hack, but thus far it has not been deemed notable enough to be included in the article. Does it have significant coverage in reliable, independant sources (as Somari does)? Salvidrim (talk) 00:49, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
I meant this article. If you read into it, it says The Capcom version was also ported unofficially to the NES by Hummer Team in 1995. That was an uncited statement. I will stop fighting about the NES version. But what about the Alladin game? Richskim (talk) 16:19 13 November 2011 (UTC)
That unsourced statement is of debatable notability -- however dicussing it here is pointless, if anything, raise your concerns on the proper talk page. Salvidrim (talk) 18:26, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Credit Section[edit]

That's a load of bollocks. I'm deleting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.241.173.170 (talk) 12:40, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Super Mario All-Stars[edit]

I'm pretty sure this game was NOT included with Super Mario All-Stars, so I think the article needs updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.51.122 (talk) 03:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The article correctly states that Mario World was packaged with Mario All-Stars. It was released late in the SNES' lifetime, and is quite rare from what I understand. My brother got it when he bought his SNES. Darrek Attilla (talk) 10:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

There were two versions of Super Mario All-Stars, one with SMW and one without.Dadaesque (talk) 06:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that the one with SMW was only available as a system pack-in, and at retail, you could only buy the sans-SMW version.--69.151.14.112 (talk) 18:49, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Manual Secret[edit]

In the manual, It says "Can you find the secret of the star road!" What does this mean? Also, does anybody know anything about the secret test area? Can you put it in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.39.56.236 (talk) 18:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

In the Advance version the "secret of the star road" no longer happens at the end of the star road. Instead you have to find ALL the exits to get the secret. 84.59.124.244 (talk) 23:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

The secret of Star Road is the Special World. About the Test area, there is a Pro Action Replay code (in fact, too many steps) in here http://themushroomkingdom.net/lostbytes.shtml ,but, believe me, it's not a big deal.--205.155.22.145 22:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LakituAl (talkcontribs)

Fair use rationale for Image:Super Mario Advance 2.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

notability of LUEshi?[edit]

I added a brief section about the Internet meme "LUEshi" to this article, but another editor removed it, saying that it was "not notable." However, since this meme is already mention on the articles about GameFAQs and ASCII art, it seems rather silly not to include it on the article about Super Mario World, the game that inspired "LUEshi" in the first place. --Ixfd64 (talk) 09:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, LUEshi is a symbol of probly one of the most wellknown forum users in the, english speaking world. --Jakezing (talk) 12:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Different Versions?[edit]

The cartridge my grandma has is different then my cartridge. on my grandma's cartridge, the words "Super mario world" are just one line across the top of the label, whereas on mine, the text on the label has the words "mario world" underneath "super". is this significant? Maiq the liar (talk) 22:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Different ways to make the image on the front, its no more important then ther gold and normal color versions of zelda games.--Jakezing (talk) 12:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Why does Rom Hacking have no notability?[edit]

Why? Its also kinda stupid that the Hacking section was removed because Lunar Magic still leads to Super Mario World. YamiMario (talk) 19:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Next time, please put new sections of a talk page at the end of the page, rather than the top. Thanks! Also, I can't really explain how fan-hacking isn't notable since I don't know all of the policies behind it, thought it's probably because it's just that, fan-hacking. It doesn't really support the actual product itself. But I'll let someone else explain that part. To the Lunar Magic thing...how is that stupid at all? In fact, it's incredibly smart. Since fan-hacking isn't notable, a program that's all about fan-hacking of this one particular game isn't notable enough either, hence why the page was redirected to Super Mario World. ---Fantasy Dragon (talk) 19:50, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Fan-hacking can be notable, but there are no sources for notability. - A Link to the Past (talk) 19:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
But why does it redirect here? What's the connection between the term "Mario Adventure" and Super Mario World?96.253.123.213 (talk) 04:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Notability? SMW Central is a SMW hacking community with over 5000 members. But no, it's "not notable" because Wikipedia admins hate the subject and just delete any mention of it on sight. 75.159.101.125 (talk) 02:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps some of the more well-known hacks would be worth a passing mention, at least? Some things, like Kaizo Mario World or Brutal Mario World seem to be rather popular, considering how many videos and pages about them can be found floating about the internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MazelTav (talkcontribs) 05:46, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
As with everything on Wikipedia, a hacking section would require verifiable coverage in reliable sources to establish notability. If you think the article deserves such a section, you're encouraged to find reliable coverage and insert the information with its sources. —Ost (talk) 13:37, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Shell and Yoshi Colors[edit]

I've noticed this being edited a bit lately, but the official color of one of the Yoshi and of one of the shells is blue. I agree, it looks more purple than blue, but in the manual it's blue, in the game it's called the blue switch palace. Therefore, it should be referred to as blue in the article.DJKingpin (talk) 21:54, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

This is largely due to the color differences back in the day between japanese and american television sets. If you look at mario in super mario world youll notice that he is maroon/purple rather than his iconic red and blue. On the japanese television sets he was colored correctly 199.111.183.207 (talk) 03:36, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I always thought Japanese and American televisions were NTSC, and thus would display exactly the same image and colours. On the PAL version, 'blue' Yoshi was very washed out, (as were most of the colours), giving him a more purply/turquoise appearance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.106.102 (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Music Sample[edit]

That is NOT the overworld theme, that is part of the in-level music for many of the "plains" levels. Someone better at wiki than I should remedy this. Effsee (talk) 16:35, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Plot Summary Added[edit]

I added a summary of the game's plot to the article; any suggestions on how it could be improved? I was thinkg the addition of the world map might be good. Here's what I had in mind: [3] The only problem with it is that the upper part of the Chocolate bridge area and the Vanilla Dome secret levels are not unlocked. --TRegnier2795 (talk) 02:46, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

IT'S THE WRONG NAME FOR THE PRINCESS[edit]

the page said that princess name was Peach , But it clearly says that her name Toadstool —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.254.237.226 (talk) 16:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

The "secret hidden castle"[edit]

This video on YouTube claims that there is a secret castle in the game that you can access by starting a new game, moving Mario to Yoshi's Island 1, pressing Select 666 times, and then holding Start and pressing A. The level that you supposedly enter (which is basically a castle with stone blocks in the air spelling out the Nazi symbol and "Heil Hitler" and a boss fight where you supposedly have to kill Woody Allen, who is portrayed as an unmodified Iggy Koopa sprite) is obviously fake, but whenever I comment to say that it's fake, my comments get thumbs-downed by morons who think it's real!! Can someone please get this video taken down?! --74.167.107.134 (talk) 18:11, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

I am really curious why you came to Wikipedia to complain about content on YouTube. What do you possibly think this would accomplish? Lumaga (talk) 02:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't the place for discussion unrelated to itself. A better medium for your complaint would be a video response. Tezkag72 (talk) 22:55, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Hahaha! Sounds real to me.129.139.1.68 (talk) 20:42, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
To end the discussion. These levels can be a fraud created through lunar magic. Albeit a rather crude attempt at programming. Please keep the threads on topic about improving the article, not speculating on hidden levels that no credible source can back up. Happy editing 82.41.26.17 (talk) 21:31, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

8 bit mario[edit]

Ive removed the section on Mario 8-bit. I removed it as the link was dead that was used as a source ( does it work for anyone else?). Feel free to revert me if you think im in error, but otherwise it needs a reliable source and verifiability to be encyclopiedic (Mostly under the terms noted above about rom dumping etc.). Again if reliable sources are found I wouldnt be in objection to its inclusion. Ottawa4ever (talk) 21:53, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Super Mario World/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Canadian Paul 02:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this article in the near future, most likely tomorrow. Canadian Paul 02:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok, here we go:

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Some comments:

  1. File:Super mario world box.jpg has been tagged for image reduction based on the fair use guidelines. Please rectify this; WP:VGIMAGES may be helpful.
  2. It would be nice to see Template:Vgrationale used for File:Supermarioworld map.PNG to organize and formalize the rationale.
  3. While not a GA requirement, it would be nice to see some alt text per Wikipedia:Alternative text for images.
  4. The URL for references #7 and #8 are identical, which appears to be a mistake.
  5. Reference #9 requires a proper citation, using a citation template or something similar - right now it's just a URL and a description. This goes for reference #20 as well.
  6. References #10 and #17 both cite the same larger source, but use different style of citation - this should be rectified for consistency.
  7. References #12 and #15 are also identical, but this time I believe that it was intentional - they should be combined, with the more properly cited version used.
  8. I'm not sure that external link #3 meets the criteria of Wikipedia:External links.
  9. Under "Gameplay" - "In addition to the running and jumping moves found in past games, the player can float with the aid of special items and execute new types of jumps." - I know that overly-detailed gameplay information is to be avoided, but even as someone who has played the game a lot (albeit, ages ago) I'm not certain as to what "new types of jumps" are being referred to. Do you mean like the the spinning-smashing thing? Anyways, a quick example here may be beneficial.
  10. Same section, I don't think that "(pictured left)" is necessary, as the caption should be sufficient to identify that segment of the game.
  11. Same section, perhaps per WP:OBVIOUS but it is written that "The overworld map displays an overhead representation of the current world and has several paths leading from the world's entrance to a castle" - This is a little awkward because what a world is isn't really explained until later on. I'm not sure that there's anything that you can really do about this, but it's something to think about if you can fix it.
  12. Same section, "the first seven worlds feature an airship controlled by one of the Koopalings, while the player battles Bowser in his castle in the eighth world." - Don't they fight the bosses in fortresses, not airships? Also, I think that there were only seven worlds if you don't count the bonus stages (and if you do, that's still nine, at least according to the Super Mario Wiki). Looks like maybe this was copied from Super Mario Bros. 3.
  13. Same section, "The new suite in the game is the cape feather, gives Mario a cape and allows him to fly for a short period of time." - Other than the fact that I think that this is supposed to be "suit", there's a word missing here (feather, which gives?).
  14. Under "Plot", while it's not necessary to go into excessive detailed, it would be nice to mention a fact or two about the characters so that those who aren't familiar with the series (theoretically, they could exist!) will know what you're talking about. You already mention in the previous section that Mario and Luigi are the protagonists, for example, but even writing "After saving the Mushroom Kingdom, plumbers Mario and Luigi..." would give it a little extra context. The section itself is a bit iffy on the prose, but I'm going to make a few those fixes myself and you can let me know what you think of them.
  15. Under "Re-releases" - "but the biggest alteration" - Here I feel that "most noticeable" would be a more neutral word, but both are kind of iffy, so I'm open to argument on this one.
  16. Same section, "Super Mario World was one of the first games to be announced for the Wii's Virtual Console with a cost of 800 Wii Points." - This reads as if it was the first game to be announced with that particular cost, rather than overall; a little bit of reworking is necessary here.
  17. Under "Music" - "...using only an electronic keyboard. Most of the music used..." - The double use of "using/used" consecutively is distracting to the flow... could one of these instances be replaced with another word?
  18. Under "Impact", two-sentence paragraphs should generally be avoided, as they often disrupt the flow - if there's nothing else to say on the contemporary reaction (which I find somewhat surprising), then it should be combined with the paragraph below.
  19. Same section, second paragraph - "The game has also been retroactively well-received." - I'm not sure that something can be "retroactively well-received"; even if it can be done, it sounds awkward. Something like "retroactively praised" might be better, but that sounds a little POVish so perhaps you can come up with something better.
  20. Same paragraph - "The game was ranked as the fourth best game in the series by ScrewAttack." - It should be made clear which series that it is the fourth-best in (even if it's per WP:OBVIOUS).
  21. Under "Legacy" - "Super Mario World is regarded as the last original television series related to the media franchise" - Aside from the question of "by whom?", this seems like the type of statement that requires a citation.
  22. The lead should not introduce facts that are not present in the body of the article (particularly when they are uncited!) and there is some development information in the lead that is not present in the actual section.

To allow for these changes to be made I am placing the article on hold for a period of up to a week. I'm always open to discussion on any of the items, so if you think I'm wrong on something leave your thoughts here and we'll discuss. I'll be checking this page at least daily, unless something comes up, so you can be sure I'll notice any comments left here. Canadian Paul 02:16, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Excuse me but can you but the ones that are left down here it hurts my eyes to see so many lines. --Pedro J. the rookie 03:34, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I'll do that now, let me look over the article. Out of curiosity though, why did you remove the only screen shot of gameplay? Canadian Paul 06:15, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Remaining items[edit]

  1. Reference #8 requires a proper citation, using a citation template or something similar - right now it's just a URL, a description, and a retrieval date.
  2. References #9 and #15 both cite the same larger source, but use different style of citation - this should be rectified for consistency.
  3. I'm not sure that external link #3 meets the criteria of Wikipedia:External links.
  4. Under "Gameplay", perhaps per WP:OBVIOUS but it is written that "The overworld map displays an overhead representation of the current world and has several paths leading from the world's entrance to a castle" - This is a little awkward because what a world is isn't really explained until later on. I'm not sure that there's anything that you can really do about this, but it's something to think about if you can fix it.
  5. Under "Impact", first paragraph, you removed "retrospectively", but didn't add anything in its place, so now it's meaningless. Perhaps "The game continued to receive favorable reviews for many years" or something to highlight that not just contemporary reviewers thought it was good.
  6. The lead should not introduce facts that are not present in the body of the article (particularly when they are uncited!) and there is some development information in the lead that is not present in the actual section.
  7. I just noticed this the second time around, but Bowser links to a disambiguation page instead of the proper article.

Canadian Paul 06:32, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I do not want to look dumb but can you tell me xaclly what to do in the lead and gameplay. --Pedro J. the rookie 14:31, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Never mind about the gameplay one, I was just concerned that what a "world" isn't really discussed, but I suppose that shouldn't really be necessary and it would just clutter up the section anyways. As for the lead, you mention that:
"...the seventh game in the Super Mario series., released initially on November 21, 1990 in Japan and on August 13, 1991 in North America. Development was handled by Nintendo's Research & Development Team 4,..."
None of this information is present in the body of the article and most of it (the release dates and who handled the development) requires a citation when you do include it there. Also, I wanted to know why you removed the only screen shot of gameplay. Canadian Paul 15:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
DONE. --Pedro J. the rookie 23:31, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Nice work! I think that this article will need to be worked on even more if you want it to grow to A or FA class, but for now I believe that it can be passed as a Good Article, meeting all the criteria. So congratulations and thank you for all your hard work. Off to the next one for me! Canadian Paul 02:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

help me with this please[edit]

At THIS Picture it shows a red and white star at the top next to MARIO and his life count....WHAT IS THIS FOR??????? Thanks --Kopicz (talk) 10:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

This is a placeholder for the amount of little stars Mario gets for completing a level. End goals have multicoloured lines; the higher Mario goes through the goal, the more lines he clears. These are counted up and a number added after the white X. Pookiyama (talk) 13:10, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Mario World 3d[edit]

I've created this thread as it seems to keep appearing and disappearing and probably needs some discussion as to why it should be removed/ or included. Please feel free to comment below why or why not this should be included in the article, thanks; Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:36, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, let's run down.
  1. Miyamoto says that they have been toying with a 3D SMW. Does not once suggest that they are not currently making it.
  2. Reggie says that all games in the Classic Games tech demo will be more than tech demos. Goes on to describe various features that they may have. Why would Reggie talk about features that tech demos could have in the future?
  3. IGN lists Super Mario World as a game in the Classic Games tech demo.

Nothing here contradicts anything. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:26, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


He doesnt once say they are making it....your a troll. Team ico never denied they are making an ico 2, so why dont we add it? but what THEY NEVER SAID THEY ARE MAKING IT.

The ign source is not correct.http://kotaku.com/5566935/mega-man-2-yoshis-island-among-teased-3ds-sorta+remakes

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Stealth20k (talkcontribs) 20:50, 3 July 2010 (UTC) 
Uh, so I guess when Kotaku asks if these are games for the 3DS, and Reggie says yes, that is the same thing as Reggie saying that they are not games for the 3DS. Why is he discussing the possible enhancements of tech demos? Basically, you're trying to argue against WP:VG/RS, which lists Kotaku as a reliable source. The particular editor, Totilo, doesn't screw around when it comes to retro games. The thing with this is that no one is arguing that a lack of denial means approval. The reference in question CONTAINS the approval. Reggie didn't mince words once, he clearly answered Totilo's question affirmatively. Also, can you tell me where this is from? "The list of games in this collection included Mario Bros., Tennis, Super Mario Bros. The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Musasame, Punch-Out!!, Excitebike, NES Open Golf, Twin Bee, Super Mario World, Kirby's Adventure, Mega Man 2, Castlevania, Urban Champ, Kid Icarus, Yoshi's Island, and Smash Ping Pong." - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
I'd just as soon not add this to the article yet. No single reliable source has said that Super Mario World is "slated for release" on the 3DS or anything like that; it seems to be WP:SYN to me. The IGN source does list SMW as one of the games, but at the same time asks, "Will this actually see the light of day?"; the IGN page for the game says that "This has not yet been announced as a game to be made available for public release." Conversely, the Kotaku source doesn't mention SMW as part of the demo. At any rate, if the game's release is more clearly confirmed by reliable sources, we can add it then. Also, please remember that everyone here is acting in good faith; be civil. Mario777Zelda (talk) 23:07, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
The problem with that is that we look at Kotaku's statement and read "well, it could very well be wrong". Why is this logic not applied to more games? We've added content based on, say, IGN, even though the information could very well turn out to be wrong or different than what they said. The IGN page says that the collection of games has not been slated for release because A. the collection itself has not been slated for release, and B. they did not ask of Reggie whether the individual games would be released. However, we have an undeniable statement from Reggie discussing these games as games, not tech demos. If you could show me an example of a developer/employee of a video game company discussing possible changes to tech demos, then I'd concede that point. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 00:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
I see your point, but I still maintain that you're using a synthesis of two different sources. If SMW was one of the games on the demo, it seems odd that Kotaku doesn't mention it. With that being said, I don't plan to either add or remove anything about this in the article, so make what changes you please. Mario777Zelda (talk) 01:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Kotaku and IGN were referring to the same demo. It's not synthesis to say this. There was only one demo containing classic NES/SNES games at E3. Kotaku listed examples, all of which corresponded with the games that IGN listed. Reggie stated that all games on the "Classic Games" tech demo would come to the 3DS, and IGN states that SMW is a game on the Classic Games tech demo. You do have to use these in conjunction with each other, yes. But this does not mean that we are making assumptions based on the combination. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 01:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not comfortable listing the game as "slated to be released for the 3DS" if IGN isn't comfortable enough to say it. I think it definitely deserves a mention though-- maybe we could word it to say, "Super Mario World was demoed at E3 2010 as part of a collection of retro games to be re-released in 3D" or something to the like? -- Nomader (Talk) 04:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, I just think that IGN didn't say anything because they didn't ask any questions of the like about it. But I suppose that that would be acceptable. I just don't want the Kotaku reference to be poisoned for the games that it did list. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 07:12, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Yoshi BGM[edit]

The article states "When riding on Yoshi, the soundtrack of any level is accompanied by bongo drums". To me, it sounds more like a banjo (guitar). Shigeru Miyamoto is also known for playing banjo in his spare time (please see: http://www.mariomayhem.com/shigeru_miyamoto.php ). 93.122.73.4 (talk) 10:07, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid to say that you are mistaken. Yes, there is a song in Super Mario World that is related to a banjo, but sort of indirectly. Super Smash Bros Melee (and Brawl) had a remix of a song in SMW known as the "Athletic Theme" (at least that's what it is called in SMW) that incorporated a prominent banjo accompaniment. I might be wrong, but that's probably what you're thinking of. But back to the keyphrase: "When riding on Yoshi"...that is when bongo drums play in SMW. I am quite certain of that. I don't know of any banjo playing in Super Mario World. If you can find a banjo in the game music and have a YouTube link, please post the URL here. (But I'm thoroughly convinced there isn't banjo playing, because the Super Mario World Soundtrack that I listen to doesn't contain banjo accompaniment--unless I'm gravely mistaken). I hope this helps. The article is correct as it is, and I believe that someone even listed a source right after the words "bongo drums" in the "Music" section of this article. 67.182.237.57 (talk) 23:29, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
One of the parts in the "plains" music theme is arguably a banjo. However that is hardly notable in and of itself. As far as the subject matter goes, what happens when you ride a Yoshi, that is clearly bongo/conga drums. Compare it yourself. If you wish, I can make a recording of that sound channel isolated. Nitro2k01 (talk) 15:40, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

North American release date[edit]

The NA release date for the game was listed as August 13, 1991. I looked through the history and it's been this way for at least several years. I changed the date for August 23, 1991 for several reasons:

Miles Blues (talk · contribs) 20:48, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Why no screenshot?[edit]

It occurs to me that a person whose only familiarity with this game was through this article as it stands would have no idea what the game actually looks like on-screen because there are no screenshots in this article. This is a shame, in the case of any game, but especially in the case of this one because of its especially distinct and iconic style. Since this is such a well done article otherwise I have to assume there's a reason that a screenshot was left out or removed. All I'm asking is: what was it? Bobnorwal (talk) 00:22, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

There was one, but it was removed because of lack of a fair use template. FlashingYoshi! 21:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlashingYoshi (talkcontribs)

Luigi Sprite[edit]

Quote from the article: "In this version, Luigi has his own sprite (in the original, Luigi's sprite was simply a palette swap of the Mario sprite)".

I don't think this is correct. He's a palette swap in the original "Super Mario Bros.", but I think he has a taller, thinner sprite than Mario in SMW, in addition to being green. Pookiyama (talk) 15:54, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Room for Improvement[edit]

This article is good, but it could be a lot better. So I am proposing some changes/alterations to it. First off, it needs more visual examples of gameplay. Second, the gameplay section has been divided into more paragraphs to make it more aesthetically pleasing and readable. And finally, could we expand a little bit on the gameplay itself?EnglishEfternamn*t/c* 20:30, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

GA Reassessment[edit]

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I do not believe that this article meets the GA criteria anymore. From a quick glance, I notice that this article has a severe number of tags, most of which are citation needed tags and some of which I have appropriately added. There are four one-sentence paragraphs, source #3 is a bare link, and source #6 (GameFAQS) is an unreliable source per WP:VG/RS. I am not convinced that that is how we should develop citations as in source #10. I think that this article is in need of major cleanup before it can survive still being a GA. Gamingforfun365 16:51, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

  • I looked at the revision that was passed as GA and to be honest I don't really think it met the criteria. And seven years on, I think our standard have improved whereas the quality of this article has not. That said, if experienced editors are willing to chip in, it probably wouldn't take long to get it to GA. First priority should be fixing all the unsourced information. --The1337gamer (talk) 18:43, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Reading the Reception section, I notice that it almost only talks about how great the game was, rather than also talking about what aspects critics have praised and what aspects critics have criticized. I shall tag that section as incomplete, with the reason being that it does not provide enough information as to what aspects critics liked and disliked. Gamingforfun365 00:35, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Delist - I would agree that this does not meet Good Article criteria. In addition to what's been mentioned above, there are whole huge sections that are unreferenced. I'm not a fan of the lead's citations, either. It feels like someone is trying to force a point. --Teancum (talk) 11:44, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
  • @Gamingforfun365: It's been over 2 months since this reassessment was opened and it's probably due some closure. Are you aware that this is an individual reassessment? The closing decision should be left to the editor initiating this reassessment, which is you. --The1337gamer (talk) 19:45, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Closing sentence: Having been reminded of the review and having had a fairly quick glimpse at the article, I notice that it is still as bad as it appears to be, so after 2 months of waiting, I think that it is safe to close this reassessment and delist the article to a lower level. Gamingforfun365 00:59, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

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