Talk:Susan Butcher

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Susan Butcher was born December 26, 1954 she lived in Boston, Massachusettes

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Susan Butcher's husband is written with a link. But is it the same David Monson?

Charges of animal cruelty[edit]

I shortened the Charges of Animal Cruelty section until the references can be backed up by actual citations. My intent is not to take a stand one way or the other. I don't know enough about the topic to do this, but it's not sufficient to say, "Journal x said this." You had to provide more information about that journal: the date of publication, issue number, article name, and if it's available an online link. To be neutral, you should also include the counter argument. Crunch 17:45, 26 August 2006 (UTC) "We all loved her" says danielle enriquez

It doesn't even make sense have this section in the article. The accusations are general in nature. If there are specific and documented charges against Susan Butcher, then it would be appropriate to add them here. I've removed the section.--Feyer 20:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
The charges are about the iditarod, not butcher, and should be removed from here. Probably the Iditarod article too, as it's smaller then what I even consider a minority viewpoint (Animal Rights Activists usually hail the event, saying its a showcase of animal athletes and an example of how humans and animals can work together.) -Mask Flag of Alaska.svg 21:45, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
I have no problem with that. Crunch 21:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

It would be ironic, in a very negative way, to include these charges here when Ms. Butcher is widely credited with showing that you could treat your dogs well, "spoil" them by old-time musher standards, and still compete. 76.28.103.69 (talk) 17:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)Will in New Haven76.28.103.69 (talk) 17:29, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Infractions with the law in the 1970s[edit]

While living in New Hampshire in the 1970s, Susan Butcher engaged in illegal activities. She, working with accomplices, broke into several homes, taking antique items of value, and then later selling the items.

I believe that a small note about these criminal activities should be included in her otherwise exceptionally positive life. This note should be respectful to her and the victims of her youthful indiscretions.

In due time, I will provide references to the New Hampshire newspapers citing these activities.

ColonelHogan (talk) 21:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

It's been a few months and no documentation has appeared. "In due time" has more than passed. 76.28.103.69 (talk) 17:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)Will in New Haven76.28.103.69 (talk) 17:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC) I love Susan Butcher —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.92.5.135 (talk) 20:23, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

If we're dealing with any controversies here: while this is unrelated to the above, there is someone here in Fairbanks who has a campaign going on against the Susan Butcher Institute, claiming that it was created for the express purpose of giving Monson a job, and that it isn't actually doing anything aside from that. I don't know whether or not this issue has been covered by a "reliable source."RadioKAOS (talk) 00:56, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Omission[edit]

An obituary of Butcher found here states the following:

She also made headlines in 1979 when she helped drive the first sled-dog team to the 20,320-foot summit of Mount McKinley, the highest peak in North America.

Yes, photos of her dog team are in the Sierra Club magazine Ascent from that period in an article about Denali. The Talkeetna Museum has a more detailed account. I saw that just four day ago. More detailed accounts (must talk to mushers) must exist as this was a one time approved event. 143.232.210.38 (talk) 22:54, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I would think this to be important enough to include in the article. Unless the objective is to edit the article so as to be narrow and insular, only mentioning her Iditarod career.RadioKAOS (talk) 04:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Source, correction for quotations[edit]

{{Request edit}} The Quotations section of this article contains a small transcription error, and does not now have a source. I can help with both. The quotes come from an interview with the Academy of Achievement in 1991. Here's the citation I suggest to use:

<ref name="Academy">{{cite web |url=http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/printmember/but0int-1 |title=Interview: Susan Butcher, Champion Dog-Sled Racer |date=June 29, 1991 |work= |publisher=Academy of Achievement |accessdate=April 20, 2012}}</ref>

Also one detail to correct: the quoted figure of "70 miles" is wrong; in the interview, she says "55 miles". This can be verified in this single-page transcription, and the video interview itself can be seen on this page. I have used the former link in the citation above.

Because the Academy happens to be a client, I have not made this edit myself. I'm posting this request in hopes that someone else is willing to make the add. Hopefully it's simple enough, and I'll be grateful to whomever does. Cheers, WWB Too (talk) 14:16, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Idiatrod Finishes[edit]

1985: Scratched link leads to Jesus Jones 'Scratched' compilation album. Intentional?

unlikely. unlinked entry Dankarl (talk) 00:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Susan Butcher/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

WikiBiography Project assessment: Sparse & unsourced information on a prominent Alaska figure. There's nothing even here about her death, even as the Alaska legislature debates establishing a Susan Butcher day. -- Yksin 01:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Last edited at 01:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 07:23, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Susan Butcher family information.[edit]

There has been a deletion and pair of reversions of the following sentence:

"She is survived by her two daughters, Tekla and Chisana, and her husband, attorney and musher David Monson."

I am not aware of any style guideline barring such content, and family information is commonly included in biographical articles. It also makes clear who David Monson is. Comments requested. Dankarl (talk) 01:16, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

The style guideline, as already mentioned, is WP:SURVIVEDBY. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:18, 5 March 2018 (UTC)