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stub created from "what links here"[edit]

This page used to be a redirect to self-governance. However, that article didn't even contain the term! Since there were many links to this page, I decided to create a stub from the articles that linked here. Most of these links were only due to the template {{India independence movement}}. All articles that contained actual links in the text have been included in the stub, with the exception of the following:

To be honest, I know very little about swaraj. Someone who knows more about it could decide to merge this with Poorana Swaraj, Purna Swaraj or Indian independence movement, or to change this into a disambiguation page between the former and self-governance. — Sebastian 02:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Anarchism[edit]

I think that Swaraj's concept of self governance of small communities with little involvement of a central authority shows that it is essentially a form of anarchism. See: http://calpeacepower.org/0201/PDF/was_gandhi_an_anarchist.pdf This should be included in the article. - Shahab 10:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Swaraj[edit]

This article should definitely be expanded. Swaraj is a concept that has been purposely subdued by Indian govt and its philosophy as espoused by Gandhi is rarely understood.

Ideas for expansion:

  • Gandhi and Anarchism.
  • Tolstoy's influence.
  • Synthesis of modern-traditional thought in Swaraj.
  • Dual character of Swaraj - self government and self control.
  • Gandhi's critique of modern west - on majority democracy (USA), parliamentary democracy (UK).
  • Disagreements between Nehru and Gandhi which led India to adopt a political and social system against Swaraj's philosophy.
  • Gandhi's isolation in implementing Swaraj.
  • The Bhoodan movement.

A website with lots of info and number of references on this topic is http://www.swaraj.org/ --Shahab 10:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Shahab 20:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Woefully inadequate[edit]

This article is woefully inadequate. The concept does not originate with Ghandi. See this artcile which discusses the concept as it appeared in The Indian Sociologist.Harrypotter 15:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey muggles, thats a dead link. Its not Ghandi but Gandhi. He didn't believe in magic but I think his contempt of English civilization probably would have kept him from reading fantasy novels. Teetotaler —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.81.197 (talk) 07:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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Image subtitle[edit]

Hallo! Could anybody registered please add "with Mahadev Desai" to the photo-subtitle up in the article? As it is now, it is slightly ridiculous (I think).

  • The Mahatmaji was not alone in his work, way... as you like to put it! I usually wonder who are the people beside him. Why miss another opportunity to simply say it?
  • "(right)" is only written there, in order to avoid saing who is with him. :-)
  • If one really wonders, who of the two is Gandhiji, then after the "(right)" he/she will, too, wonder: well, who is the other guy?

Could anyone help out?--217.232.65.181 (talk) 01:03, 1 March 2011 (UTC)(de:Stephele)

Tilak[edit]

I realise that the article has a note saying that it is discussing Gandhi's concept but nonetheless, as others have pointed out above, this article is woeful and indeed is undue weight in that it ascribes to Gandhi a concept that existed many years previously. If we are to do justice to the subject matter in the context of India then we really do need to start with Tilak, and perhaps even earlier. - Sitush (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Events of 1927-28[edit]

I was wondering why the two events described here:

In 1927, Jawaharlal Nehru introduced a resolution demanding "complete national independence" called Purna Swaraj which was a more politically inclined goal. The Payyannur Conference in May 1928 passed a resolution requesting the Indian National Congress to adopt “Complete Independence” instead of Swaraj as its goal.<ref>[[Rajmohan Gandhi]]. ''Patel: A Life''. ASIN: B0006EYQ0A, pp 171.</ref>

have been taken out of the article (with this edit). — Sebastian 21:40, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I had removed the said sentences because I felt that the intention of term swaraj used in this resolution was political independence from the British and not holistic self-rule (see this and the article Purna_Swaraj). I felt this sentence to be misleading for Swaraj as in this article refers to a more generic philosophy of self-reliance and self rule and it would not be beneficial to confuse the two meanings (although they were linked). In hindsight, I now feel that the article would benefit if how the two meanings were tied together is illustrated.--Shahab (talk) 06:03, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Political soapboxing/spam[edit]

I have just reverted an addition. Please can you find another way to source the contribution. The political party that was mentioned is new and it is being almost spammed across numerous articles. The source that was provided was a link to a download page for a propaganda book on their website. Find an independent source and it will likely be ok but doing it the way that it was done seems like soapboxing/using Wikipedia for promotional purposes. - Sitush (talk) 23:00, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry ... I posted the following wrongly on my talk page :(

"The link is NOT to a propaganda book, but to the book itself, "Swaraj - Power to the people" It is a practical enunciation of ways to 'decentralisation', empowering people, and has NOTHING to do with any political party, and is based on Swaraj of Gandhi in the modern context. That 'Swaraj' is accepted as the mission by Aam Aadmi Party is incidental. At the time of launch Arvind Kejriwal said "The book highlights the shortcomings of the current model of centralised governance and explains how the real rule of the people can be brought about "Swaraj" (book)

A few refs: 1. "With Swaraj in mind, Kejriwal launches Aam Aadmi Party" http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/politics/with-swaraj-in-mind-kejriwal-launches-aam-aadmi-party/article4130337.ece 1. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/kejriwal-launches-english-translation-of-swaraj/1029513/ 3. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/1748168/report-arvind-kejriwal-launches-party-for-swaraj-and-he-will-fight-for-it 4. http://www.firstpost.com/arvind-kejriwal/video/arvind-kejriwal-live-discussion-on-aap-swaraj/aQizvCujbIw510031S11.html Ratanmaitra (talk) 04:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)"

Is it ok now? Thanks Ratanmaitra (talk) 07:39, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Kejriwal is, I think, involved in the AAP and the book amounts to a manifesto for that party which is one of hundreds that exist in India (and of thousands that have come and gone, because they often do not seem to last long). The article has been amended in the interval. All seems ok as it is now. If the book is notable then it could be mentioned in the "See also" section. - Sitush (talk) 11:36, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Modern Approach to Swaraj[edit]

I have introduced the topic "Modern approach to Swaraj" describing recent approach to implement concept of Swaraj in modern context in India .Please revert me back on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThinkingYouth (talkcontribs) 06:59, 30 May 2013 (UTC)