Talk:Sweet and sour

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Beverage[edit]

Sweet and Sour is also a term used in the alcoholic beverage industry to refer to a citrus juice and sugar blend used for mixed drinks such as margaritas, whisky sours, and many others. This term should not automatically redirect to the food term, or the food term should be edited to incorporate the beverage term. Generuda (talk) 15:44, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

NE China[edit]

"Sweet and sour sauce is known by many Chinese, particularly those in rural areas of north-east China, as 'the people's sauce'. This is due to its cheap production costs. It was distributed by the Chinese Communist Party during the Cultural Revolution, adding to its image as a part of Chinese culture." ??? I am from north-east China and I have never heard anything like that. In fact the sauce is not even common in this part of China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.171.5 (talk) 12:18, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I live in the Northeast of China and I have not heard the sentence you quoted by I will research it. However, sweet and sour style dishes are well known in the north east. In particular the dish Guo Bao Rou is a sweet and sour dish made with small thin steaks of pork rather than cubes. Rincewind42 (talk) 02:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Merger proposal Guo Bao Rou[edit]

Merge Guo Bao Rou into this article. Rational: Guo Bao Rou is a form of Sweet and Sour dish common in the north east of China. However, Guo Bao Rou is not notable in itself. The article is an orphan, stub and lacks references. The information in the Guo Bao Rou page could be satisfactory covered by the Sweet and Sour article. I don't think Wikipedia needs to have separate pages for every minor local variation on the Sweet and Sour theme. Rincewind42 (talk) 02:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Merger proposal Sweet and sour chicken[edit]

Merge Sweet and sour chicken into this article. Rational: Sweet and sour chicken is a minor variation within the sweet and sour theme. Wikipedia does not require a separate article for every single possible sweet and sour dish e.g. shrimp, pork, beef, chicken, salad, etc. The information on each of these pages would mostly repeat that of the other articles. The article Sweet and sour chicken is a stub and lacks references may not be notable other than as part of the wider sweet and sour topic.Rincewind42 (talk) 03:42, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Merger proposal Sweet and sour pork[edit]

Merge Sweet and sour pork into this article. Rational: Sweet and sour pork is a minor, though dominant, variation within the sweet and sour theme. Wikipedia does not require a separate article for every single possible sweet and sour dish e.g. shrimp, pork, beef, chicken, salad, etc. The information on each of these pages would mostly repeat that of the other articles. Rincewind42 (talk) 04:11, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

(My comment applies to both merger proposals.) Meh. On the one hand, Sweet and sour chicken is a stub and not terribly likely to be anything other than a stub for the foreseeable= future. However, Sweet and sour pork is a longer, more complex article, and would be more difficult to merge neatly. Merging it also might weight this article too much toward Chinese cuisine. I think I'll offer a weak oppose and offer up a possible alternative: leave this article alone but mergie Sweet and sour pork with Sweet and sour chicken, and add something to it about Sweet and sour shrimp, for which there's no article. (Sweet and sour beef and salad I've never heard of, but it may be a regional thing. I have heard of sweet and sour broccoli, fwiw.) Rivertorch (talk) 06:25, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Sweet and sour pork is largely a copy of this article with just a few additions. Also for the most part it just talks about sweet and sour with only a passing note to the existence of pork. It would thus not be difficult to merge the articles as just a little information need be added to this article from that one.
Chicken can be added into this article with just a one sentence as most of the current sweet and sour chicken article is a duplication of the others.
Sweet and sour is a Chinese (or rather East Asian) cuisine. The current article has a large section titled western cuisine which really just describes Chinese cuisine as eaten in the west. Also the section on Chinese cuisine focuses too strongly on Cantonese and Hong Kong.
If we did as you suggest and "merge Sweet and sour pork with Sweet and sour chicken", wouldn't that just be this page Sweet and sour?
Sweet and sour beef is a variation found in Muslim restaurants in China. Rincewind42 (talk) 09:25, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Huh. Well, you make a reasonable case. The only caveat I'd add is that sweet and sour is not exclusively an East Asian cuisine; the article currently falls short in documenting that. However, since it does seem to be primarily an East Asian cuisine, my undue weight concern is probably . . . well, undue. Consider my weak oppose withdrawn. Rivertorch (talk) 18:53, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Merge complete. Rincewind42 (talk) 08:41, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I had forgotten all about this. It looks good . . . thanks! Rivertorch (talk) 16:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)