Talk:Symphony No. 10 (Shostakovich)

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Most sources I can find actually say the gopak is Ukrainian. They may have it in both places, I suppose. Leaving it in for now. Markalexander100 02:41, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Updated: I've found various sources saying it's Ukrainian, Russian, or Byelorussian. No Georgian yet...Markalexander100 06:55, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

Inspiration for Psycho?[edit]

The opening of the second movement sounds almost exactly like the opening of Bernard Hermann's score for Psycho. Is there any evidence that one inspired the other?

Mahler's "ape call?"[edit]

"... the similarity of the motif to the ape call in the first movement of Das Lied von der Erde This note was added, 17:10, 19 January 2006, with a footnote. What's up with this? as they say. Translation glitch? Russian humor? --Wetman 02:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I assure you it's true. He's not calling her a monkey, it's the association with fatality that (presumably) was his point. Markyour words 10:08, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

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Notable recordings?[edit]

The examples in this article (especially the 1st and 3rd, currently) are hardly the notable recordings. At best, they are cheap minor ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)


To what does the abbreviation r.m. refer? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:53, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Rehearsal mark, possibly? --Deskford (talk) 22:40, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
But of course. Many thanks. Have linked. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:36, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
I think I would be tempted to spell it out in full, rather than using a non-standard abbreviation, at least on the first occurrence, and maybe both, since there are only two. It would make the text more readable and comprehensible to the non-specialist. --Deskford (talk) 12:36, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Good idea. By all means go ahead. It's a shame that no source is provided for this score material. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:41, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Done. Yes, we seem to have quite a few musical articles containing unsourced analysis, sometimes interesting and well-written, but nonetheless possibly inappropriate original research. --Deskford (talk) 23:19, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Grave link hover[edit]

When hovering over the links for the tempo markings of the movements (links for 1. Moderato 2. Allegro 3. Allegretto and Largo Piú mosso 4. Andante, Allegro and L'istesso tempo) the link is said to lead to Grave (music). This then leads to the Basic Tempo Markings under the Music Vocabulary for Tempo heading on the Tempo page. While, this leads to the correct page, I feel that the "Grave" is inappropriate. Not even the slowest of this piece can really be characterised as Grave. It really needs a slower, and solemn feel to it. This can be heard within sections of Pergolesi's Stabat Mater, Satie's 3rd Gymnopédie and Choral inappetissant his Sports et Divertissements, Janáček's Frýdecká panna Maria, Tchaikovsky's Dolly's Funeral and Debussy's Danseuses de Delphes from his Préludes. These examples have varying tempi but still capture that slow and solemn idea. Shostakovich 10 does not really do this. MauriceRavelFan (talk) 16:16, 27 June 2017 (UTC)