Talk:System Shock 2

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Level editor origin[edit]

"The community at Sshock2, a fan site, have also released a free level editor entitled ShockEd.[54]"

ShockEd was given to the community by Irrational Games, it's the editor the game was developed with. It comes with a license by Irrational. The way it's written now, it sounds as if fans wrote the editor. (Kolya 213.196.203.248 (talk) 06:41, 12 August 2009 (UTC))

Regarding the reversion by Rehevkor: That "reliable tird party source" is wrong. Take a look at the license that comes with the editor. Also, how is this for a reliable source? Kolya (87.78.10.189 (talk) 15:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC))

It's not a matter of truth. The original source also covers the notability aspect of the editor. Fansites are rarely reliable sources however, and should not be relied on. As it was written it didn't imply Sshock2 made the editor anyway. I have rewritten to it somewhat, also removed neutral point of view issues, but it still requires a non fan site source, perhaps you could find one, as I was unable to, the FAQ one doesn't really explain enough to be of use. I ask you not to simply revert if you have issues with it, please discuss it here. Rehevkor 16:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

New article[edit]

Interesting article about the game: http://irrationalgames.com/insider/what-might-have-been/ Maybe it could be incorporated into the development section? --Mika1h (talk) 18:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreadable[edit]

Anyone else find this article all but unreadable now due to the dozens of reference links shotgunned throughout it? Most hard science articles here don't have that many links! Clayhalliwell (talk) 03:02, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

That is how every article of any quality is written, everything must be sourced, and this is most commonly done via inline citations, see Wikipedia:CITE#Inline_citations. Rehevkor 03:21, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Based on a random perusal of Good Articles, no, this isn't how they're written. Yes, citations and references are important, but this article reads as if it were written by the sort of editor who'd put [citation needed] after "System Shock 2 is a game." Clayhalliwell (talk) 14:12, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
You've obviously been very selective in which articles you've looked at, because yes, that is how they are written. If you are opposed to inline citations then I suggest starting a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Citing_sources, good luck! Rehevkor 14:20, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

System Shock 3 'status'[edit]

"PC Gamer UK expanded these rumors further, stating the team behind The Godfather was charged with its creation. Ken Levine, when asked whether he would helm a third installment, replied "that question is completely out of my hands." [...] As of January 2010, nothing conclusive has been reported regarding the status of the purported project."

Is this still notable? The 'team behind the Godfather' are surely EA Redwood Shores, which makes it almost certain that this supposed 'System Shock 3' project was science-fiction horror shoot-em-up 'Dead Space' and that there was simply some kind of miscommunication? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.229.61 (talk) 00:18, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Plausible, definite similarities in the games. Perhaps some reliable sources have brought it up. Rehevkor 00:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Reference material[edit]

While digging through the online print archive, I located the following print preview material for this game:

One or more print reviews for this game may also be found in the archive. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:15, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

The "Platform(s)" field of the Infobox includes "Dreamcast (canceled)". If the port of the PC version to Dreamcast was cancelled before release, why is it even listed in the Infobox? ProResearcher (talk) 02:59, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:Infobox VG states "The console or operating system the game was released for," so I removed it as it was never released on that platform. Is this source really usable? Doesn't go into any detail, seems to just be a database entry. Gives no background on the development or cancellation. Rehevkor 11:36, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

SHODAN article needs attention, and work[edit]

Just sayin'. --Niemti (talk) 22:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes it needs attention. What if we work on it for FAC? — ΛΧΣ21 00:51, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Some more awards/noms[edit]

--Niemti (talk) 00:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the updates applied to the "Collectors Edition"[edit]

This version, considered by GOG.com to be a "collector's edition", includes updates to the original game to make it work on modern systems. I am happy with the content here; but the update itself as I understand it, was important on its own. Released by a broadly anonymous source. It is ongoing (still being updated according to the TTLG forum post) http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140085 One report on the incident: (the particular link to the first release location at ariane4ever appears dead now) http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/26/hooray-system-shock-2-thief-2-get-usability-patches/

I feel that ghis ongoing (unofficial?) development on SS2 is worthy of note.115.64.167.220 (talk) 00:14, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Is there any indication that this is the same patch used on the GOG release? That aside, the Rockpapershotgun source shows coverage of the patch so I'd not be opposed to having it mentioned somewhere in the article. Яehevkor 12:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

FWIW[edit]

I think this article already includes it, but all the bonus content that was sold with the GOG version is now part of the Steam version (for all owners), along with the Linux port that came out yesterday (2014-04-01). --MASEM (t) 17:12, 2 April 2014 (UTC)