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Anyone has any sources regarding this? --Striver 11:46, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Editing without reading[edit]

I do wish that Striver had actually read the edits that I'd made before adding his own. For example the article clearly states that Taif capitulated to the Ottoman Empire on 17 July 1517, so why is there a heading for the Ottoman Empire that begins with 1299. At that time the Ottoman "Empire" was just a tiny beylik in the north-eastern corner of Anatolia, and it was not until the 16th century that it turned its direction towards the Hījaz. The second point is that Hashemite control over the city lasted until 1924, once again something that is easy to see in the article. Bukalemun3 06:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

It's interesting how much attention Taif's been given on Wikipedia compared to other Saudi cities. The article still needs work though. Slackerlawstudent 03:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


I'm not clear that the Angel Gabriel's visit exactly qualifies as "history". Perhaps there could be a "Ta'if in Islam" section. Ninquerinquar 21:10, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Is there a written source for this? if so when is the source dated? Maybe simply adding, "according to some," might be more suitable. Furthermore, another legend is said to tell of the Jewish King Solomon, visiting there in Ta'if, Saudi Arabia, maybe this should added, but as, of course the source; a traditional legend. - Thank-you! --Anaccuratesource (talk) 03:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Also agree: the words 'according to Islamic traditions' or something similar should be inserted, which I shall do. Also, I note that there seems to be very little written about the place before 630 CE. Surely the place must have been known to the Romans and others if it was a religious centre?1812ahill (talk) 20:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 10:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Ta’ifTa'if – Change from non-ASCII to ASCII apostrophe. The Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Arabic recommends using a "primary transcription" if at least 75% of English sources use the same transcription, or else a "standard transliteration". Google gives me about 1e9 hits for Ta'if (ASCII apostrophe), 1e6 hits for Ta’if (non-ASCII apostrophe), and 2e6 hits for Taif (no apostrophe at all). I'm not sure how Google handles the different apostrophes, and "if" is a common English word, but a factor of 500 seems to favour "Ta'if" (ASCII apostrophe). The table showing the standard and strict transliterations of each Arabic letter shows a standard ASCII ' (#x27, decimal 39) and not a non-ASCII ’ (#x2019, decimal 8217). AFAIK this is also preferred for English Wikipedia titles/URLs in general. So Google seems to agree with the standard transliteration and not give any different primary transcription. This move cannot be made without the help of an admin, because the article name with the ASCII apostrophe already exists as a redirect. Boud (talk) 21:00, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

  • Support. Why make a title non-typeable when very few readers will notice any difference? Kauffner (talk) 07:11, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Support per nom. SnowFire (talk) 22:54, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.