Talk:Tag Team (group)

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On 28 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Tag Team (hip hop duo). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

On 10 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Barack Obama and Michelle Obama in the "Whoomp There It Is" Video[edit]

I agree that the gentleman at 1:01 is either Barack Obama or so similar in appearance he could get a job as an impersonator. He even has the same facial mole. However, the lady at 0:47, though somewhat similar to Michelle Obama in appearance today, does not closely resemble Michelle in the early 1990s as seen here http://www.dancewithshadows.com/celebrity/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/michelle-obama-8.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.64.156.1 (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, per WP:Reliable sources. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 17:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's been picked up by Huffington Post now - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/07/was-obama-in-an-early-90s_n_603177.html President Obama has neither confirmed nor denied being in the music video. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.64.156.1 (talk) 06:17, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 June 2022[edit]

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Nearly every other participant seems to want their own option, making it apparent that no consensus is going to arise here. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:04, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tag Team (group) → Tag Team (hip hop duo) – There are only two people in the act, so they are a duo and not a group. "Duo" has a precedent for use, such as Trout Fishing in America (duo), Love and Theft (duo), Black Caviar (duo), and Black Star (rap duo). Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 00:36, 28 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 01:06, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose (hip hop duo) or (rap duo) would be better, the moment it becomes duo it suggests wrestling. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:14, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@In ictu oculi: Changed accordingly. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:35, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose "(group)" is fine per WP:BANDDAB; if it ain't WP:BROKE... 162 etc. (talk) 02:58, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They're not a group though. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 14:55, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Move back to Tag Team, the article's original title, per WP:DIFFCAPS. Notice the recent pageviews for this article are close to those for tag team (last year the duo had 10 times as many views). 4 readers per day are heading to the dab page because they can't get where they want by typing capitalized "Tag Team". Second best, if any disambiguation were necessary, would be to move to Tag Team (duo) as preferred at WP:BANDDAB "when the musical ensemble is a duet". Additional disambiguation would be needed only if there was another duo with the same name. Otherwise leave as is. Station1 (talk) 08:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move to Tag Team, support a move to Tag Team (duo) instead. 2600:6C40:5400:766:9CFE:FC96:826:4606 (talk) 10:44, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 10 October 2022[edit]

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Yet again. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:06, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tag Team (group) → ? – The last RM fizzled out due to no one agreeing on anything, so let's try this again. I am proposing either of the two options:

Move to Tag Team (duo) per the precedent of using "(duo)" in disambiguations (e.g. Trout Fishing in America (duo), Love and Theft (duo)). They are not a "group" as they consist of only two people. @162 etc.: failed to address this in the last RM when questioned. Despite another comment, the term "duo" is far from exclusive to wrestling, and I doubt anyone will be confused.
Move to Tag Team as per WP:DIFFCAPS and the page view stats in the last RM, which suggest that most people looking for "Tag Team" with both T's capitalized are indeed looking for the musical duo. (hat tip to @Station1:) Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 22:32, 10 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:54, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Same as last time. 162 etc. (talk) 22:38, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
They're not a group though, and "(duo)" is an acceptable modifier. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 22:44, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No problem with the current title. A group is more than one. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:32, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@162 etc.: @Necrothesp:: I suggest you read Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(music)#Musical_individuals_and_groups. When the musical ensemble is a duet (meaning two people), use "(duo)" instead of "group" 23.84.172.8 (talk) 20:46, 13 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]
As has already been stated, a tag team duo suggests wrestling rather than music. I would not object to Tag Team (hip hop duo), however. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:23, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to the original title Tag Team, from which it was removed unilaterally and, in my opinion, needlessly. Acceptable, as has been pointed out, under WP:DIFFCAPS. There is no need for a disambiguator at all and, in general, a title shouldn't include a disambiguator when one is not needed. Largoplazo (talk) 10:18, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support move back to Tag Team per Largoplazo's comment directly above and my comment in the previous RM. Station1 (talk) 19:21, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. A two-person group is still a group. Also, strong oppose suggestion of moving to "Tag Team" with no disambiguator. A Tag Team is a tag team, and the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT is correct there. Expecting readers to know the difference between a title in title case and a title in sentence case, for a case where the group are not hugely well-known, is not correct. — Amakuru (talk) 10:24, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: (duo) seems to be out. So (group) or no (group)? — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:54, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Tag Team (duo). "Group" is generally used for more than 2 people. "Duo" is a common way to refer to a musical group of 2. Rreagan007 (talk) 22:34, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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