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IPA pronounciation[edit]

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The first line says: TeX (pronounced /ˈtɛx/, as in Greek, often /ˈtɛk/ in English
Why should there be two pronounciations, when they are writen alike in IPA: /ˈtɛx/? -DePiep (talk) 07:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I see ... x or k. Almost just in time ;-) -DePiep (talk) 07:16, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

What does "Greek" or "English" pronunciation mean? If anything, it would make people unfamiliar with IPA think it rhymes with "Greek". And reading X (ks) as Χ (kh) is "Greek", not the other way round. --MarkSteward (talk) 12:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

There is a link to make clear that Greek refers to the Greek language. I don't quite understand what your second problem is, (late Koine, Byzantine, and Modern) Greek chi is pronounced as IPA [x], just like the note says. — Emil J. 13:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm having a hard time understanding the phrase "/ˈtɛx/ tekh as in Greek" as well. On careful parsing I see it's likely the author does not mean `such a sound as one finds in the word "Greek"' because there are no quotes around the word "Greek" and none of "TeX" actually sounds like the word "Greek". However, it is still unclear what the sentence is saying about the relationship between /ˈtɛx/ tekh and Greek. I think maybe it's trying to say something like "the word is pronounced with the end consonant sounding like /x/ (kh), a sound such as may be found in Modern Greek" or "the word is pronounced as you might expect a word spelled this way to be pronounced if it were a Greek word (which it isn't actually); the word is pronounced as it would be if in Greek". I think the former is more likely. Could we be clearer about what it is that is pronounced as in Modern Greek? Or maybe just leave off "as in Greek" because it probably won't be illuminating to English speakers? —Raymond Keller (talk) 10:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

"The widely-used MIME Type for TeX"[edit]

1,080,000 results for Google Search "text/x-tex"

versus

142,000 results for Google Search "application/x-tex"

--Keith111 (talk) 00:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

While I agree that text/x-tex makes much more sense given the usual MIME naming conventions, there is something going wrong with your Google search: by clicking on the two links above I get 173,000 hits for "text/x-tex", and 1,210,000 for "application/x-tex". — Emil J. 12:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Weird, I am still getting about the same numbers as before, in both Firefox and IE (which I rarely use): 1,070,000 for the first link and 140,000 for the second link. Refresh with Ctrl+F5 and modification of "Safe Search" settings did not produce a significant change. I am not logged in to Google, so my search results should not be personalized. --Keith111 (talk) 09:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
I also get the same results with a second computer (connected to the same router as the first). --Keith111 (talk) 09:15, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Interesting. I get 1,050,000 and 152,000 results respectively. Perhaps it's one of Google's geographical "features"? Shreevatsa (talk) 16:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Is it a "formula" ?[edit]

In the given TeX example, the output produced by the quantity between the dollar signs -- which is well known as the roots of a quadratic equation -- is called a "formula". The question is, whether this is a correct use of the word "formula" in the context of mathematics. In the Wikipedia article of the same name, I find the following statement:

Expressions are distinct from formulas in that they cannot contain an equals sign; whereas formulas are comparable to sentences, expressions are more like phrases.

And so the crux is, whether the usage is correct -- I would tend to vote for the word "expression" here. After all, TeX has very much to do with maths! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.165.253.203 (talk) 08:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Archiving[edit]

Does anyone object to me setting up automatic archiving for this page using MizaBot? Unless otherwise agreed, I would set it to archive threads that have been inactive for 60 days.--Oneiros (talk) 01:39, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

LULZ[edit]

The name TeX is intended by its developer to be pronounced /ˈtɛx/, with the final consonant of loch or Bach

Do you guys actually know how Bach is pronounced in German? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.85.214.129 (talk) 17:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

IPA: [ˈbaχ] or [ˈbax], depending on the dialect. Also, depending on the dialect, the initial consonant may be voiceless lenis [b̥], and I guess there may be other variations, but the final phone is generally pronounced as a voiceless uvular or velar fricative. How do you think it is pronounced?—Emil J. 10:48, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
That problem was also solved in the 2010 TeX replacement. Tijfo098 (talk) 16:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
What are you talking about? And how does this help improving the article?--Oneiros (talk) 11:33, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Watch the talk and you'll understand. Tijfo098 (talk) 17:35, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

No comparison to other word processors.[edit]

No part of the article is dedicated to comparing and contrasting it to other word processors. I understand that it uses a markup language and requires a separate editor program for WYSIWYG editing, but no direct comparisons as far as feature set were made, other than noting its excellent support for mathematical equations. 67.142.130.18 (talk) 02:39, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Broken Link[edit]

The link to "Plain TeX Quick Reference (PDF)" is broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.198.129.70 (talk) 21:53, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

POV[edit]

Doesn't this sound a little biased?
"The disappointing galley proofs gave him the final motivation to solve the problem at hand once and for all by designing his own typesetting system."--86.184.71.5 (talk) 08:44, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Needs a Tex disambiguation link as there are other Tex's out there[edit]

Look at the Text Executive Programming Language Wikipedia article, it has a Tex disambiguation reference page pointer.

I think this article needs one too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_%28disambiguation%29

from

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_Executive_Programming_Language — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.6.208.10 (talk) 15:29, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

External links modified[edit]

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