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For me the whole Darkstep vibe was born out of the following: Darkcore Jungle, Cop Slop and Techstep. Without those 3 genres i really dont think that Darkstep would have materialised in the way we know it. Check 'DJ Hogwash' and 'The Backgammon Allstars' early material on the Single File record label and you'll see what i mean.

Remember being at a rave in Colchester (circa 1995) once when DJ Lippy dropped the remix of 'Special FX for your Face' and it was like nothing anyone had ever heard before. Absolute Darkstep Preacher Man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexanderTheG.O.A.T (talkcontribs) 13:17, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

What's difference between techstep and neurofunk? — Anrie Nord 06:33, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

As I understand it, neurofunk is characterised by extremely precise production and an even more sci-fi feel. It tends not to have growling synths and that sort of thing, instead sounding (obsessively) clean and futuristic. If techstep is industrial + drum & bass, neurofunk is electro + drum & bass. If you want an example of neurofunk, listen to Stakka & Skynet's old stuff on Audio Blueprint or what's possibly my favourite album ever, Source Direct's Controlled Developments, which I've heard described as 'theme music to a sci-fi film done by a paranoid future version of Lalo Schifrin'. Naar 12:59, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
I have published the list of well known techstep and neurofunk albums and mixes on my personal Wikipedia page. Which of them can be referred as examples of neurofunk? Could you recommend more albums in neurofunk genre? — Anrie Nord 12:55, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Of the ones you have listed on your page (that I've listened to; not 2, 4, 5, 11), I would describe the majority of them as neurofunk. Black Science is debatable as, to me, it seems to belong more to the earlier tradition of so-called 'intelligent' or atmospheric drum & bass. Essentially all of Audio Blueprint's output was neurofunk, with releases on the Underfire sub-label more dancefloor-oriented and somewhat closer to techstep. You seem to have covered most of the bases with your list already, but you might check out Black Sun Empire's Driving Insane, Gridlok's Preludes, Matrix's Sleepwalk, pretty much anything by Photek and the Audio Blueprint, Gain Recordings, Nerve Recordings, Subtitles and Underfire back catalogues. Naar 14:12, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Could someone add a list or even a sample some of the more 'famous' examples of Techstep to the main page please. Thanks. Diamonddark (talk) 19:57, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Is techstep the same as 2 step?

No, 2step is a successor of garage, while techstep is a subgenre of drum & bass. See lists of 2step and drum & bass artists for more info. — Anrie Nord 18:19, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Isn't 2 step a type of beat pattern used in d&b?

Ok another question that is the same: What is the differance between techstep and dubstep? --Michael Ray 18:53, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

From what I've been told, dubstep isn't drum and bass at all; it's a subgenre of garage. Listening to the Grime album on Rephlex (which is actually dubstep, not grime, apparently), it doesn't really share the same baseline musical traits as drum and bass; basically, it just doesn't sound like D&B. You'd think the music press would get better at naming things after so much practice, but it doesn't seem to have happened. Naar 17:36, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

im the one who wrote about neurofunk. whoever wrote about techstep is 100% accurate - part of being accurate is being neutral. now its making sence when people read about techstep while clicking on to neurofunk to find out that neurofunk is only a progression of techstep which means by listening to neurofunk, the roots in (dark) techstep are quite evident. i just dont understand why NO U TURN is not mentioned since ed rush, nico, trace and fierce helped to pioneer techstep - in 1995/1996 - and the label is not mentioned while fierce was never was a member of virus but of no u turn only. apart from this, its an accurate article indeed. people can now surf between tech and neuro and obtain real knowledge.

Why is there no mention of 1995+ techstep output here?[edit]

This was when the term first came about. Techstep seems to be in use to describe something a bit different, but related, as this article focuses solely on the late 90s and not the labels and artists that created this sound in '95.

Where is the mention of Trace's releases on Emotif and the Techstepping LP? Ed Rush's No U Turn releases e.g. What's Up?, Mothership etc. Doc Scott's Shadowboxing?

Just a thought!Mrhaste 13:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

___________________________________________________________________ —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC) NAAR, or moderators ---BEGIN FROM THIS INFO--- dnb with "techoid" sound can be \\1.techstep [bad company - the nine] etc \\2.technoid dnb ("son of techstep and smth between techstep and neuro) [Konflict-Maelstrom, BSE - vessel],no u-turn records,konflict,silent witness,early сause 4 сoncern,trace,ed rush & nico,ryme tyme,sinthtix, the sect tracks (some) \\3.techno dnb (latest style, with "powerful" beats,for dancing in a hard way) [raiden & dean rodell - kings of warehouse EP, temper d - minimal blink],[proket - Apocrypha EP] \\4.neurofunk (bulletproof, nphect&Dizplay - the best ones;)) ) \\+neurofunk now can be mainstream (more danceable) and oldschool... \\4a.futurefunk (noisia style neuro)

smth like that. so, there is no official classification anywhere ;)) I think most notable producers, djs, label-owners must cooperate and solve this problems ;)))

+bonus here: How to distinguish "Stupidly speaking", as i can explain using my bad english skill ;) techstep - its oldschool sound. "boom-cha boom-cha" beats \\technoid dnb - "dry, synthetic" beats and bass, bass rather monotonous \\techno dnb - "powerfull" "pan/saucepan/pot/crock" beats, like in darkside dnb \\neurofunk - fat notable bass, bass prevails


I just suggested that darkstep be merged into this article, as I believe the two subgenres are closely related, and possibly synonymous.
Any thoughts? Aryder779 (talk) 22:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

-- Yeah, they often seem to overlap each other but they're still two major and different subgenres. Think techstep as d'n'b which contains very technical and machinelike atmospheres and darkstep as raw, most hard and evil (but not always, as producers and crowd tend to like it just hard) sounding D'n'B successor to darkcore jungle. Although that Ishkur's old guide is not perfect at all, I think it would show the difference between them well enough.

New School Techstep[edit]

It's a new Techstep subgenre, I suggest someone adds it to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:20, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Darkstep - key info[edit]

This term is getting bandied about again but for what sounds like a different style of music. Nuff mans in Norfolk and DJs are putting on Darkstep night's, but the sound is more like a crunched up Wonky/Gabba type sound, BUT....its ultra dark, all demonic vibes and what have you. Jimmy 'mad Ford's Harris is bringing out a succession of 12"s this summer all going under this genre, think its called the 'Whore Sessions'. Hope this helps anyway,Believe! Sloppyjoe78 (talk) 21:13, 2 June 2015 (UTC)Sloppyjoe78