Talk:Ten Commandments
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Telpardec (talk • contribs) 19:15, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
I think this is a very bad article, because it presents the subject from mostly a religious perspective. Nothing is made of the very obvious inconstancies. In fact, every effort is made to weave very different versions of the 10C into one narrative. While that might be the goal of religious adherence, it should not be the stance of an article in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.96.145 (talk) 16:34, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
please do not bury the answer of the topic in summaries, codes, and write-ups[edit]
show the ten commandments in cut and paste form AS THEY WERE WRITTEN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8806:400:1CF0:2D1D:9016:F477:29BF (talk) 13:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2018[edit]
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Under the section: Passages in Exodus and Deuteronomy In the final paragraph of that section the scripture passage titled "Deuteronomy 5:4–20" needs to be changed to Deuteronomy 5:4–21 with the link changed to: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+5%3A4%E2%80%9321&version=KJV 173.173.238.46 (talk) 15:46, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Done The end passage was extended from 20 to 25. Spintendo 19:25, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Possible origins[edit]
Why is there an extensive section on possible Hittite or Mesopotamian influence for the 10, but nothing on the more likely Egyptian Book of the Dead influence? Fig (talk) 23:23, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- @Fig wright: Read this. Can you find better sources? Doug Weller talk 11:38, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- The source listed there is sufficient to warrant inclusion. The link notes it was a popular book, and therefore notable. The reason for rejection: that the book wasn't by an academic, is absurd - that isn't how Wikipedia works. Fig (talk) 22:56, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
- Notability is purely to do with whether we can have an article, WP:RS and WP:NPOV govern whether we use a source. Do any sources that meet our criteria discuss these ideas of his? If so, we might be able to use them. Doug Weller talk 12:05, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
- The source listed there is sufficient to warrant inclusion. The link notes it was a popular book, and therefore notable. The reason for rejection: that the book wasn't by an academic, is absurd - that isn't how Wikipedia works. Fig (talk) 22:56, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
Quran[edit]
I have looked through the archives but it's not clear to me why there is no mention of the commandments in Al-An'am in the Quran. See sources below:
- "In the Quran, the Ten Commandments are discussed in Surah Al-An'am, 6:151-153": Hillary Thompson; Edward F. Duffy; Erin Dawson (7 November 2017). The Infographic Guide to the Bible: The Old Testament: A Visual Reference for Everything You Need to Know. Simon and Schuster. pp. 43–. ISBN 978-1-5072-0487-0.
- "The Qur'an includes a version of the Ten Commandments in sura Al-An'am": Dr. Nathan Ogan (3 September 2015). The Scriptures: An Overview of Both Testaments. Lulu.com. pp. 42–. ISBN 978-1-329-53162-8.
- Hussein Naguib (23 August 2014). The Quranic Ten Commandments: This Is My Straight Path Al An'am (6:153). Hussein M. Naguib. ISBN 978-0-615-99559-5.
Has this been discussed before?
Onceinawhile (talk) 08:41, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Islam[edit]
Hello all! I just wanted to ask, what do people here think about adding a section about Islam under the "religious interpretation" section? I think it might be a very useful addition! :) JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (talk) 01:46, 21 September 2018 (UTC) Hmm. After thinking a bit, I realized it might be useful to specify some details of what such a section could look like, to make it easier should people like the idea. So here's a rough sketch:
- what are some major Muslim theologians who have discussed the ten commandments?
- how do various Muslim denominations view the ten commandments?
- are the ten commandants often considered as particularly important areas of Muslim law?
- do the Koran or other central Islamic texts mention the ten commandments, and if so, in what context? And perhaps some examples of verses where the ten commandments are mentioned, if so?
I am unfortunately not as familiar with Islam as I could be, as is probably clear from my rather basic questions. But I think that shows that this article can help others like me learn more about Islam. Thanks for reading!:) JonathanHopeThisIsUnique (talk) 02:01, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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