Talk:Tenerife airport disaster

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Former good article nominee Tenerife airport disaster was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
August 31, 2006 Good article nominee Not listed

Events category[edit]

@J 1982: and Richardw - re the March 1977 events category. The Canary Islands are a Spanish possession, and therefore part of Europe politically. I accept what Richardw says about being part of Africa geographically. How about we use two categories, Category:1977 events in Africa (will need creating) and Category:March 1977 events in Europe? Mjroots (talk) 07:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I have thought about putting the article in March 1977 events in Africa, but since that category does not exist, I refrained from doing so. Although I personally doubt the practical use of such a narrowmazed category structure, March 1977 events in Africa would fit the bill and I would not object having the article put in that category. March 1977 events in Europe is technically flawed, but if you were to put the article in both categories I would let that be. Richard 08:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Sure we can have Africa categories, I haven't just created them yet. J 1982 (talk) 11:33, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Aviation Jargon[edit]

The term "rotate" is clearly being used in the article in a specialist manner. Please would someone translate this for the benefit of normal people. Many thanks, Darkman101 (talk) 00:09, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Have you followed the link? There is an article explaining it. An in-line explanation would be redundant. --Deeday-UK (talk) 07:53, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

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Long and messy lead[edit]

@Zin92: can you please be more specific on which part of the lead after my edit, which you reverted, would be unclear, and what 'key information' would be missing? --Deeday-UK (talk) 10:55, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Deeday-UK. Thanks for asking. Sorry, I would have added some thoughts to the talk page when I reverted but I didn't have time. Some of my thoughts...
You've changed bomb explosion and a terrorist threat of a second at Gran Canaria airport to just terrorist threat. But there was a bomb explosion and I think that this is important.
"Everybody on board the KLM jet died, while 61 occupants in the front section of the Pan Am 747 survived" reads awkwardly to me - when I get to the while, I'm expecting to be told how many people died on the Pan Am, not how many survived.
"The subsequent investigations concluded that the primary cause of the accident was the KLM captain's decision to take off in the mistaken belief that a clearance from air traffic control (ATC) had been issued. In fact, a misunderstanding in radio communications between the KLM crew and ATC had occurred." The "In fact..." seems to imply that what is said in the first sentence is wrong and that what is said in the second sentence is correct instead. However, I think that the second sentence applies in addition to the first.
I think that the lead does need seem to clean-up. I'd be happy to help.
Regards. Zin92 (talk) 14:42, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, why not address the specific points then, instead of bluntly hitting the Undo button? You are expected to make an effort as much as I am, or everybody else. Anyway, I've tweaked a couple of points: the number of bombs that went off at Gran Canaria is largely irrelevant and certainly not lead-worthy (and already covered in the article body); the main point is that Gran Canaria was closed for security reasons, and Los Rodeos was getting overwhelmed as a result. I don't get your last point; to me the paragraph reads "the captain believed he had takeoff clearance, but in fact he had not, due to a misunderstanding with ATC". By all means, reword it as you see fit, and we'll take it from there. --Deeday-UK (talk) 21:01, 10 September 2017 (UTC)